Which of these mids have the most midbass punch?

[grampi]

Illusion Audio Luccent LM-6

Diamond Hex 6.5

Orion HCCA 6.2

JBL P650C

[Gary S]

Hey grampi... I have looked at some of your posts lately... if you are going to run your JL tweets and crossover or go active, and simply need some shallow midbasses... why don't you call Critical Mass and see if their mids from their comp sets would be in your price range... I know they can sell direct, maybe the mids are available separately. Those things are super shallow, but they are new technology and have tons of midbass, especially if you set your high pass crossover lower than normal.

If those are out of the question... if the illusion audio are the models with the neo magnet sticking out in front, I'd go with those.

[Gary S]

I was just thinking... MTX TXC might have a separate midbass available that would fit... TXC6.0 - supposed to be 2.25" depth.

[Gary S]

I have some kicker ss midbass's for sale.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274236

- That's another great option... the separate shallow mount midbass drivers are 2" deep.

[T3mpest]

Illusion Audio Luccent LM-6

Diamond Hex 6.5

Orion HCCA 6.2

JBL P650C

how much depth do you have to work with?

[grampi]

Hey grampi... I have looked at some of your posts lately... if you are going to run your JL tweets and crossover or go active, and simply need some shallow midbasses... why don't you call Critical Mass and see if their mids from their comp sets would be in your price range... I know they can sell direct, maybe the mids are available separately. Those things are super shallow, but they are new technology and have tons of midbass, especially if you set your high pass crossover lower than normal.

If those are out of the question... if the illusion audio are the models with the neo magnet sticking out in front, I'd go with those.

Some folks over in diymobileaudio.com actually purchased some of the Illusions (they're only $45 a pair shipped) and said they lacked midbass. Never heard of Critical Mass. They have a web site?

[Louisiana_CRX]

Earthquake shallow mount 6.5 subs have some awesome midbass

[grampi]

- That's another great option... the separate shallow mount midbass drivers are 2" deep.

Three questions; how's the SQ, how's the punch, and will 75 wrms be enough to run them efficiently?

[grampi]

how much depth do you have to work with?

2.3"

[grampi]

I was just thinking... MTX TXC might have a separate midbass available that would fit... TXC6.0 - supposed to be 2.25" depth.

Those things are expensive! $189 for MTX? And that's just for the mids. Usually MTX speakers can be had for next to nothing. I wonder why these are so pricey?

[Gary S]

Well, if you think the MTX are expensive, don't even look at the Critical Mass.

The MTX are new last year, a new high line.... they have 4.8 MM X-max... the trick with them to get more midbass, is to drop the high-pass lower than normal, around 60HZ, to get them moving. you can put 150 - 225 watts on them. Excellent sound quality for a midbass heavy driver (they have a big coil). Not an efficient way to do it... but efficiency and midbass really don't go together well. If you would not consider more power, the Orion is looking pretty good right now... that foam surround and rigid dust cap should be more efficient as far as midbass, but not much... but the MTX would pass them on higher power.

I'm sorry, the Kicker won't work in a two-way system, 3-way only... response is only to 500HZ... it's strictly midbass, no midrange. You need something that plays up to around 3,000HZ at least.

[Flipx99]

The Hertz Space line is super shallow. I have about 2.3" as well in my S-10. I run the 8" version.

[grampi]

Well, if you think the MTX are expensive, don't even look at the Critical Mass.

The MTX are new last year, a new high line.... they have 4.8 MM X-max... the trick with them to get more midbass, is to drop the high-pass lower than normal, around 60HZ, to get them moving. you can put 150 - 225 watts on them. Excellent sound quality for a midbass heavy driver (they have a big coil). Not an efficient way to do it... but efficiency and midbass really don't go together well. If you would not consider more power, the Orion is looking pretty good right now... that foam surround and rigid dust cap should be more efficient as far as midbass, but not much... but the MTX would pass them on higher power.

I'll have to look into the Illusions and Kicker more.

I don't want to upgrade my amp, so I'm looking for mids that would also be the most efficient running off of 75 wrms. The MTXs, and probably the Kickers as well would probably be better suited with at least 150 wrms each. I'm guessing 75wrms would give them no headroom whatsoever.

[bikinpunk]

I'd like to hear some of your guys' version of midbass...

Make sure you treat your door VERY well. Otherwise you're pissing in the wind.

Anyway, Dyn mw162's get my vote. I'm running these to 71hz with a 12db slope and they blend very well with my sub-bass.

[Flipx99]

Those are too deep.

The GTs would probably work though