which 6.5 comps for this amp?

[rmdl51]

Hello! I have this 4-ch amp:
http://item.express.ebay.com/Vehicle...mdZExpressItem

I have 4 coaxials 2 - 6x9 5-way pionner and some cheap ones on the front doors which are the ones I want to upgrade with some good components, budget is around $150 and I was reading good stuff about CDT-CL's but I'm not sure if this amp will be able to give enough juice to those comps, since I don't have much knowledge about wattage/gains/ohms what do you recommend? should I get a better amp? or this one will do it? some people also recommend phoenix, eclipse and some others, please help!

[Gary S]

Hello! I have this 4-ch amp:
http://item.express.ebay.com/Vehicle...mdZExpressItem

I have 4 coaxials 2 - 6x9 5-way pionner and some cheap ones on the front doors which are the ones I want to upgrade with some good components, budget is around $150 and I was reading good stuff about CDT-CL's but I'm not sure if this amp will be able to give enough juice to those comps, since I don't have much knowledge about wattage/gains/ohms what do you recommend? should I get a better amp? or this one will do it? some people also recommend phoenix, eclipse and some others, please help!

- Looks like it's capable of 200 watts X 2 into 2 ohms. Probably around 120 X 2 into 4 - ohms.


Cdt high end stuff is decent but overpriced in my opinion. The set you mention is low-end. I would suggest c4 audio or Orion HCCA 6.2 on ebay.

[rmdl51]

You mean something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/6-5-ORION-HCCA-6...QQcmdZViewItem
can I power them up with the mentioned amp without problems? I don't see watts spec.
what do you think of the amp, will do the job or I should start looking for something better for comps?
I don't want/need to get the best audio system, just want to stay away from crappy stuff and get a good decent sound quality set of amp-comps. Thank you!

[Gary S]

Those are the components.

The amp is a 4-channel, pardon me... how are you hooking it up... what is the rest of your system? Are you using the rear channels for subs? I'm not sure about the amp brand... sounds like flea market brand... not sure how reliable it would be. Tell me more about your system. Do you already own the amp, or are you just looking at it?

[BASSMEKANIK]

hmmm...

[BASSMEKANIK]

if you have that amp, throw it away or sell it to some idiot that dont know anything about car audio... if you dont have it, do yourself a favor and dont get it...

that brand is in the pyle, legacy, performance technique, american pro, volfenhag line...


just a fyi

[Gary S]

Okay, I just read your post again... you have the amp and four speakers... my information on the power could be wrong... can you look at the amp and tell me what the fuse rating is and how many?

- I just looked up the brand... same parent company as american pro, dhd, koiiler, performance teknique, phoenix digital, mtv video, volfenhag, rockwood, cuspid, x-plore. I think American Hi Fi is the parent company. Yes.. flea market stuff.

[rmdl51]

Ok guys thank you very much! that's what I need to know! I'll throw away both amps I guess, the one powering up my subs is a performance teknique, I know it's crappy too.

My whole installation was made by a cheap idiot that took advantage of my ignorance a couple of years ago, so I research a little bit and start taking advice from a more experienced people (like all of you guys from this forum) and try to replace/upgrade my sound system which you can easily figure it out that it's awful.

Well on my own I bought two 10" Kicker CVR on a sealed box but they are still powered by the PT amp, I think I'm gonna need advice to buy an amp for the subs either, I still don't have much knowledge if it's better a mono or a 2 ch bridged but that's another subject.

The Audiofonics 4-ch have two 6x9 5-way Pionner which I just bought to replace crappy performance teknique coaxials, in the front doors I have 6.5" PT coaxials.

Now the questions:
can you suggest a good 4-ch amp not too expensive to keep using my 6x9 pionners and add some good 6.5" components?
or do you think it's better to have 2x 2ch amp separated for front and rear speakers? or maybe leave rear speakers without amp?

[Gary S]

I'd ditch the rear speakers... that's only for factory speakers.

Even though the amps are flea market variety, I'd still like to know the fuse ratings... if they have no noise, and have enough power, why not use them? Just don't buy that brand again.

Speakers, installation, system design, and system tunning are most important.. as long as you have plenty of power, amps and head units don't make nearly as big a difference.

Like I said, I'd throw away the rear speakers, bridge the audiofonics to a great set of comps up front... that will give you more power on the component set up front, where it should be. And run the woofers the way you suggested, if the amps have a good amount of juice.

The only other thing... sometimes higher order x-overs help with keeping the bass up front illusion... might be worth it to buy another sub amp just for the crossover in it, and up the sub power also in one shot.

Spend your money on a great component set before you start chucking amps though.

[tbasile1]

Spend your money on a great component set before you start chucking amps though.

Agreed, for the time being, the amp should be fine

As for the rears, if you wana keep them just run them off the HU

So whats your budget for a comp set??

[rmdl51]

I'm around $150 but I don't know could be 160 or if you suggest to save a little more and get something better for 180 I'll follow your advice. But I would like to keep it under 180 in case I have to spend money in some extras like cable or I don't know.

Gary, I'll let you know the fuse rating tomorrow, and one more thing, to be honest right know the rear speakers are the only ones that sound pretty decent, actually they sound clearer and louder than my 6.5 on the doors, I know things will change after installing the comps, but I don't really want to get rid of them because I just bought them, I think I'll follow Tbayz1 advice and run them off from HU if that doesn't cause any conflict with my amps, by the way my HU is a Pionner DEH-7700MP

oh besides suggestions for components if any of you can refer a link with diagrams about how to bridge amps I will really appreciate it.

[Gary S]

- The 6X9's are louder because they are more efficient. If you bridge the amp to front components, they will be louder yet.

If you can save a little more, I'd go with Cerwin Vega V-Max 65, or Precision Power 356cs


How do you bridge an amp?
http://www.lalena.com/Audio/FAQ/Wiring/

[tbasile1]

For under $150 you cant go wrong with the Phoenix Gold RSd components, they can be found actually for like $90 on ebay

[DejaWiz]

Comps: RSd65cs $129 shipped (authorized, or check eBay)

Comp Amp: KX450.2 $130 + shipping (authorized refurb seller, or check the FS subforum)

Sub Amp: Need to know what final ohm load the amp sees from the dual CVR's first.

[rmdl51]

I just checked the Audiofonics and it has two 25A fuses, so? is that good or bad? can I give it a shot or I should buy a new amp?

Sub Amp: Need to know what final ohm load the amp sees from the dual CVR's first.

How do I figure that out?