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    need more midbass!

    hi guys i have the following system:

    2x RE SE ported off 2000w (gains turned down)
    us amps tu600 -> front comps most likely will be ID CSX 64 or Hertz HSK 165s

    but i dont think either comps will be able to produce enough midbass to keep up with the subs im thinking another set of comps in the rear should help or a 2x 8" midbasses but that would take the soundstage back further :S

    the tu600 is 2ch so is there *somehow* i can set different hpf/lpf for the rears/fronts or is this impossible?

    what would you do?!!?

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    Re: need more midbass!

    ya, you can always go for 7-8" woofers in the doors, thats what im doing

    partsexpress.com has dayton 7" woofers for like 35 bucks



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    Re: need more midbass!

    i just had a look and it says they're for home audio? does that make a difference?

    thanks for replyin!

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    Re: need more midbass!

    just get the 4ohm version , it will be fine for car audio



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    Re: need more midbass!

    cheers Twistid




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    Re: need more midbass!

    Quote Originally Posted by Twistid View Post
    ya, you can always go for 7-8" woofers in the doors, thats what im doing

    partsexpress.com has dayton 7" woofers for like 35 bucks

    What about Tang bands 6.5 woofers? Would they be just as good if not a better choice than the Daytons for midbass?



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    Re: need more midbass!

    dayton/tang band are not really popular here in the uk at all...so i have no idea!!




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    Re: need more midbass!

    If you want lots of midbass build a little ported enclosure for what ever you get, I will throw my recommendations in here. The daytons are nice, I like these, but they cost alot more than the daytons. Gotta love the american made DD mids, they are monsters...




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    Re: need more midbass!

    Quote Originally Posted by phrozen_lad View Post
    i just had a look and it says they're for home audio? does that make a difference?

    thanks for replyin!

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    No not at all, but they make a 4 ohm car audio version. For what it's worth my Peerless mids are home audio drivers, but they do wonders in car

    Also, about the daytons, be careful about the 7's, with the aluminum cone they don't play very well above 2k hz.


    On a side note, if you're worried about not having enough midbass, the single best thing you could do is sound deaden your doors, that will improve midbass response immensely.



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    Re: need more midbass!

    thanks for the replies guys

    in the front doors im going to dynamat the outter skin then sludge,seal the whole door up with dynamat then sludge ontop of that. Hopefully that will bring out maximum midbass- just wondering if that will be enough to keep up with 2 ported subs?

    the DD mids look tasty but in the uk we have to go through some dd africa website and its just too complicated!! how much are they in the states? are they just small subs or specificially designed mids? Also was looking at the old XXX mids, theres a 2nd hand set going for 180 (~$360) which look interesting?

    thanks a lot guys

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    Re: need more midbass!

    look into some powerbass 3xl comp's they have great midbass response! there is a few places where you can get them cheap!




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    Re: need more midbass!

    Powerbass 3XL component sets? How exactly do they sound, because i'm in need of some new speakers. Or maybe you can direct me to a detailed review of some sort. Plz and thanx.




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    Re: need more midbass!

    im not sure how big spl dynamics are in the states but i just found these cheap here in the uk http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/dyna...e3458a7ebf60de

    anyone used them? look alright,decent sensitivity,play 45-5000hz, and only 59.99 for a pair!!




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    Re: need more midbass!

    Can you build a sealed pod or does the driver need to perform well IB ?



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    Re: need more midbass!

    Quote Originally Posted by phrozen_lad View Post
    thanks for the replies guys

    in the front doors im going to dynamat the outter skin then sludge,seal the whole door up with dynamat then sludge ontop of that. Hopefully that will bring out maximum midbass- just wondering if that will be enough to keep up with 2 ported subs?

    the DD mids look tasty but in the uk we have to go through some dd africa website and its just too complicated!! how much are they in the states? are they just small subs or specificially designed mids? Also was looking at the old XXX mids, theres a 2nd hand set going for 180 (~$360) which look interesting?

    thanks a lot guys

    phrozen

    Your door plans sound good, one other step I suggest is buying some closed cell foam, and lining both your inner and outer door skins with it. The foam is used to absorb road noise, and supposedly helps reduce standing waves.

    I did something similar to you, but I have two layers of raammat on the outer skin, then a layer of closed cell foam, and one layer of raammat on the inner door skin, the doors are solid as a rock right now, I can almost get away with out a sub, I say almost, while the mids play great down to 50hz there's that whole bottom end that I'm missing, and a single 12 will fill that void .

    I'm not sure about the DD mids, I don't know much about them other than they look beefy however, from what I've heard the old XXX mids are pretty much sealed only drivers, and you'll probably end up disappointed if you run them IB in your doors.



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