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    Germs power handling....

    I was thinking about going active.....is 75w x4 enough though? If I bridged i'd be at 150w x2 on a regular setup. This would be my first active setup.....and I hear its "another world" so i'm willing to give it a shot.
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    Re: Germs power handling....

    75 x 4 is fine. what are you going to use as far as processing goes though to go active? what is your reasoning for going active?



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    i changed my mind, nevermind about going active.....didn't realize it was that complicated




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    Re: Germs power handling....

    so try bi-amping them....at least they have adjustable xover, should able to get great sound anyhow- just fiddle with the different tuning options. Think of it as Quasi-active



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    if i bi-amped them, i'd only have 75w right? because its 75x4.....i dont think thats enough to divide up between mids and tweeter......i think im gonna just bridge the amp




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    Re: Germs power handling....

    Your getting Germs? Your copying my set-up almost exactly lol! j/p! I still need to play with mine a little bit to get them right.



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    Quote Originally Posted by SlickCMRick View Post
    if i bi-amped them, i'd only have 75w right? because its 75x4.....i dont think thats enough to divide up between mids and tweeter......i think im gonna just bridge the amp
    Hmnnn...75 per tweeter, 75 per woofer...as opposed to 150 bridged divided by the two? At least biamping you are directing the power to each driver.



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    Quote Originally Posted by 3.5Max6spd View Post
    Hmnnn...75 per tweeter, 75 per woofer...as opposed to 150 bridged divided by the two? At least biamping you are directing the power to each driver.
    What would be the benefits and dis-advantages of this? I have a JL 300/4 and I currently have them bridged at about 115 watts per side right now. Would bi-amping be worht the time of running new wire to the trunk?



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    Quote Originally Posted by 3.5Max6spd View Post
    Hmnnn...75 per tweeter, 75 per woofer...as opposed to 150 bridged divided by the two? At least biamping you are directing the power to each driver.
    Would you recommend 100 for the mid and 50 for the tweeter?

    Also, 727kid, how do you like the way they sound? I've never heard them and I don't want to waste $450 if I don't like em.




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    Quote Originally Posted by the727kid View Post
    What would be the benefits and dis-advantages of this? I have a JL 300/4 and I currently have them bridged at about 115 watts per side right now. Would bi-amping be worht the time of running new wire to the trunk?
    Wire is cheap, find out for yourself...

    Plus once the wire is ran, you can go active anytime.



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    Quote Originally Posted by SlickCMRick View Post
    Would you recommend 100 for the mid and 50 for the tweeter?

    Also, 727kid, how do you like the way they sound? I've never heard them and I don't want to waste $450 if I don't like em.
    I like them a lot, I still need to deaden my doors and what not though.



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    On these Eclipse XA4000, XA5000.. check power output with DMM, they seem to to be way under rated at lease in bridged mode... my XA5000 is putting out 33.5V bridged.. thats like 260W a ch @ 4 ohms.. and the Germs are sucking it up and loving it..



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    Re: Germs power handling....

    well i have an ea series, i wonder if they are as underrated......i hope 150w is enough cuz thats all i got!




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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickCMRick View Post
    well i have an ea series, i wonder if they are as underrated......i hope 150w is enough cuz thats all i got!
    Sorry, thought I read XA in profile.. anyway..
    EA seems to be as rated, I just swapped out a EA 4000 for a XA5000... want another one... let me know... its for sale...

    150W will work great.. BTW



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    Quote Originally Posted by F150Truck'in View Post
    Sorry, thought I read XA in profile.. anyway..
    EA seems to be as rated, I just swapped out a EA 4000 for a XA5000... want another one... let me know... its for sale...

    150W will work great.. BTW
    no thanks, no need for another

    nice amp though




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