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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    I'm gonna run a BRZ2100 to my pair of 10s



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by SourDeez View Post
    And do you have proof that the BRZ does not do rated or are you just hating on hifonics like most?
    I've used Hifonics and love them, they may hit rated at full tilt, but it isn't like the more expensive amps that will do it cleanly. I would never run one to full-tilt because I wouldn't trust the signal being clean enough to keep the sub safe.

    I've also never clamped one, but I've heard the difference of many different 1200W Amps on the exact same set-up and the Hifonics was lacking.



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by UnderFire View Post
    I've used Hifonics and love them, they may hit rated at full tilt, but it isn't like the more expensive amps that will do it cleanly. I would never run one to full-tilt because I wouldn't trust the signal being clean enough to keep the sub safe.

    I've also never clamped one, but I've heard the difference of many different 1200W Amps on the exact same set-up and the Hifonics was lacking.
    i dont know about all that.. I run a brz2400 at .5 (used to at 1 as well) and it just slams.. maybe your amp was just a dud.. I've heard a fair share of amps.. kicker zx2500.. rf2500.. and i can tell no difference

    no clamp personally so I cant say for sure.. but it was the best $300 ive spent on any car audio purchase to date



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    You can give that sub 2000 watts RMS if you wanted to, as long as you adjust the gain so that no distortion is heard. I would give it 800-1000 RMS though, as long as you don't have it on full blast for long periods of time because then it could possibly melt the voice coil due to the excessive wattage but it should be fine if you set the gains on the amp correctly.




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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by IonRL205 View Post
    I'm gonna run a BRZ2100 to my pair of 10s
    at 1 ohm?



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by SourDeez View Post
    at 1 ohm?
    Yeah. Amp will be here later today

    Two VVX 10s in 3 cubes @ 30 hz



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by IonRL205 View Post
    Yeah. Amp will be here later today

    Two VVX 10s in 3 cubes @ 30 hz
    You will be happy.

    I have a 2400 on 2 SA12's, its awesome.



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by SourDeez View Post
    You will be happy.

    I have a 2400 on 2 SA12's, its awesome.
    Yeah, I'm surprised the output they have right now on this cheap kenwood 400w amp I'm using. Can't wait to hear them on the BRZ



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arp0833 View Post
    You can give that sub 2000 watts RMS if you wanted to
    based on what evidence? Just out of interest; I have never heard of anyone giving a vvx over 1k daily




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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by IonRL205 View Post
    Yeah, I'm surprised the output they have right now on this cheap kenwood 400w amp I'm using. Can't wait to hear them on the BRZ
    Good ****. Let me know how it goes. Bet you $5 when you install it and first crank it you while have a smile on your face.. I know I always do when I install some new ****



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by g6ryder View Post
    I put a DAT2500.1 @ 1ohm to the pair of my VVX 10s daily they handled it fine never got stinky, Just be careful with your gain and stay clip free you should get away 1k maybe a little more a piece.
    Hey, thanks for the help. Is there some kind of meter I can hook up to my setup to tell whether I'm clipping or not?



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella View Post
    Hey, thanks for the help. Is there some kind of meter I can hook up to my setup to tell whether I'm clipping or not?
    There is, but if you set your gains properly with the DMM method you should be fine.



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arp0833 View Post
    You can give that sub 2000 watts RMS if you wanted to, as long as you adjust the gain so that no distortion is heard. I would give it 800-1000 RMS though, as long as you don't have it on full blast for long periods of time because then it could possibly melt the voice coil due to the excessive wattage but it should be fine if you set the gains on the amp correctly.
    Yeah, gunna call BS on that...never heard of anybody sending that much to them, esp daily driver with music vs/ test tone.
    Underrated is one thing, putting 2k on a 600WRMS sub and expecting them to take it is just idiotic.

    That being said, I am putting two of the VVX-12 d2s in my daily driver soon, and will be confident in sending each 750-800WRMS , consistently.... wouldn't sweat burping them upwards of another 200-400, but alot of that feeling of being safe is in knowing you have clean power along with a correctly built enclosure, gains correctly set, known box rise, etc, etc.



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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderella View Post
    Hey, thanks for the help. Is there some kind of meter I can hook up to my setup to tell whether I'm clipping or not?
    There is a DSO Nano rental thread on here so you can measure your amp's output signal. TBH you don't really need an o-scope or anything like that unless you really want to squeeze every watt out of your amp. Set your gains with a DMM for 800w using a 50hz -3dB test tone and you'll be good to go. Small changes in power will hardly effect the volume, so you may not hear much between 800-1000w, and consequently your sub will just heat up more.




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    Re: Under-rated @ 600w...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangaroux View Post
    There is a DSO Nano rental thread on here so you can measure your amp's output signal. TBH you don't really need an o-scope or anything like that unless you really want to squeeze every watt out of your amp. Set your gains with a DMM for 800w using a 50hz -3dB test tone and you'll be good to go. Small changes in power will hardly effect the volume, so you may not hear much between 800-1000w, and consequently your sub will just heat up more.
    Right, that makes sense. However, will it heat up too much to where I won't be able to run it daily?



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