Ok, after being able to play with like 50 of them I've ordered so many more.. GET some, go to ebay, and buy some.. they cost like so much less than neons and light up tons.. I will be writing an article on lighting for the next issue of momentum, but if you havent already discovered these things, go try em ut, even just 2 of them will get ur mind thinking and wanting u to do more with them if you like any kind of "show affect" things like lighting.. ebay is the first site, heres another oznium.com > i rep them nicely, their good people, fast shipping, good products.. check em out..