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    please critique my setup I am planning.

    I am very new to Home audio past walmart surround sounds.

    I currently have a simple LG bluray surround sound sytem.

    I am not looking for superior studio/concert results, just a lot better than what I have now.

    So this is the plan:

    Keeping the receiver for my current Surround sound and ditching all the speakers for it.

    i will be doing 4 satelites with the Tang Band Bamboo cone 4" speakers
    Tang Band W4-1320SIF 4" Bamboo Full Range Speaker 264-914

    and with Vifa XT25BG60-04 1" Shielded Dual Ring Radiator Tweeter
    Vifa XT25BG60-04 1" Shielded Dual Ring Radiator Tweeter 264-1012

    in Dayton Audio TW-0.25CH 0.25 ft³ 2-Way Speaker Cabinet Pair Cherry
    Dayton Audio TW-0.25CH 0.25 ft³ 2-Way Cabinet Pair Cherry 302-702

    with these terminals Dayton Audio BPA-38G HD Binding Post Pair Gold
    Dayton Audio BPA-38G HD Binding Post Pair Gold 091-1245

    these satelites will have crossovers built for them, and will be powered by my current receiver.

    then we are doing this setup for the sub

    the Behringer EP4000 Europower Power Amplifier 2 x 1400W
    Behringer EP4000 Europower Power Amplifier 2 x 1400W 248-748

    with the Behringer SUPER-X PRO CX2310 Crossover
    Behringer SUPER-X PRO CX2310 Crossover | Musician's Friend

    will power a single 15" Alpine SWR-1522D
    Alpine SWR-1522D Type-R 15" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils at Crutchfield.com

    in a custom made vented box.

    So what do you think?



    My short lil references from who i bought from.. Tallc, BassAddictJ, lilkman2202, IamMurph, CJ8501, bumpincrv, and mrteacha

    2008 F250 powerstroke. too much performance done, stock stereo.
    2013 Honda Civic, 100% stock inside and out (wifes brand new car)
    2000 Honda Prelude. Son's first car, Sony POS HU, RF Punch 800a2, Alpine type R 10" in vented box tuned to 26hz.




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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    I would buy one of these for HT way before the alpine... You could even look at 2 of them.

    Dayton Audio RSS390HO-4 15" Reference HO Subwoofer 4 Ohm 295-469

    Dayton Audio UM15-22 15" Ultimax DVC Subwoofer 2 ohm Per Coi 295-514

    I haven't ever used any of the tang band speakers but I have heard the underhungs and they sounded great. As far as the dayton box etc I believe you can buy full setups you just have to put everything in. They come with the woofer, tweeter, crossover, sound foam, and the cabinet and it is all tuned to work together all ready. Dayton makes sevferal of them I believe so that could be a route to look into.



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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    Those dayton woofers are VERY nice. I would run the HF version before the HO though. The alpine is fine if all you're looking for is output but in a home theater setup SQ is critical and they lack in that area. Go Dayton, they set the standard in DIY home audio IMO.




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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    i am not trying to argue, you guys probably know more than I do. This is the same setup my buddy essentially built for his movie theater in his house. I was looking at the stats on the 2 subs

    here is Alpine Type R 15"
    Features and Specification
    SPECIFICATIONS

    Power Handling Power Range: 400 - 750 Watts
    RMS Power Handling: 750 Watts
    Peak Power Handling: 2000 Watts
    Dimensions Mounting Depth: 234 mm (9.2'')
    Mounting Diameter: 349 mm (13.8'')
    Displacement: 0.123 cu. ft. (Front Mount)
    Added Volume: 0160 cu. ft. (Reverse Mount, Magnet Out)
    General Frequency Response: 20Hz - 400Hz
    FEATURES

    Diaphram Material: Kevlar Reinforced Pulp Fiber
    Design: 2-Piece Structural Parabolic
    Surround Material: Injected Molded SantopreneA?
    Design: High Amplitude Multi-Roll
    Spider Material: NomexA?
    Design: Mirrored Progressive
    Voice Coil Material: 180A?C High Temp Wire on Spiral Cut Aluminum Former
    Design: 4-Layer Dual Voice Coil
    Motor Structure Pole Geometry: Compound Radius Curve (Patent #6 ,639,993)
    Configuration: Radial Vented VC Heat Sink and Airflow Management System (Patent Pending)
    Frame Material: Cast Aluminum
    Design: Perimeter Vented Heat Transfer (Patent Pending)
    Terminals Layout: One Side
    Design: Heavy Duty 8 gauge Push with Housing, Banana Plug Jumper
    Tinsel Leads Design: Reinforced Layer Spider Integration (Patent #6 ,810,988)
    Gasket Design: Concealed Mount Gasket System


    Dayton Audio RSS390HO-4 15" Reference HO Subwoofer 4 Ohm
    Power Handling (RMS)
    800 Watts
    Power Handling (max)
    1,600 Watts
    Impedance
    4 ohms
    Frequency Response
    21 to 600 Hz
    Sensitivity
    87 dB 1W/1m
    Voice Coil Diameter
    2.5"
    Magnet Weight
    150 oz.
    THIELE-SMALL PARAMETERS
    Resonant Frequency (Fs)
    24.2 Hz
    DC Resistance (Re)
    3.3 ohms
    Voice Coil Inductance (Le)
    1.83 mH
    Mechanical Q (Qms)
    4.48
    Electromagnetic Q (Qes)
    0.42
    Total Q (Qts)
    0.39
    Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)
    3.87 ft.³
    Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)
    0.11 mm/N
    BL Product (BL)
    21.52 Tm
    Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)
    380.6g
    Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)
    12 mm
    Surface Area of Cone (Sd)
    829.6 cm²
    MATERIALS OF CONSTRUCTION
    Cone Material
    Aluminum
    Surround Material
    Rubber
    Voice Coil Wire Material
    Copper
    Voice Coil Former
    Aluminum
    Basket / Frame Material
    Cast Aluminum
    Magnet Material
    Ferrite
    MOUNTING INFORMATION
    Overall Outside Diameter
    15.29"
    Baffle Cutout Diameter
    14.01"
    Depth
    7.01"
    # Mounting Holes
    8
    OPTIMUM CABINET SIZE *
    Sealed Volume
    0.95 ft.³
    Sealed F3
    3 Hz
    Vented Volume
    2.72 ft.³
    Vented F3
    30 Hz

    * Enclosure volume/F3s based on BassBox "optimum" calculations




    Can someone explain the difference to me? The sub will be made in a custom designed box using an enclosure program, not a prefab box.



    My short lil references from who i bought from.. Tallc, BassAddictJ, lilkman2202, IamMurph, CJ8501, bumpincrv, and mrteacha

    2008 F250 powerstroke. too much performance done, stock stereo.
    2013 Honda Civic, 100% stock inside and out (wifes brand new car)
    2000 Honda Prelude. Son's first car, Sony POS HU, RF Punch 800a2, Alpine type R 10" in vented box tuned to 26hz.

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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    the daytons will get a lot lower and have a crisp clean sound....they are specifically designed for a home theatre environment




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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    can you tell me where you are seeing this. I am trying to learn this so please dont get hostile. I am looking at the frequency response range

    Alpine 20-400hz
    Dayton 21-600hz.

    600hz is more highs, than the alpine, but according to manufacturer specs the alpine says it goes 1 hz lower than the dayton.

    sensitivity is both 87db nd sub excursion is 20.7mm for the alpine and 12.1mm for the Dayton



    My short lil references from who i bought from.. Tallc, BassAddictJ, lilkman2202, IamMurph, CJ8501, bumpincrv, and mrteacha

    2008 F250 powerstroke. too much performance done, stock stereo.
    2013 Honda Civic, 100% stock inside and out (wifes brand new car)
    2000 Honda Prelude. Son's first car, Sony POS HU, RF Punch 800a2, Alpine type R 10" in vented box tuned to 26hz.

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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    I was speaking from experience...I've owned both those woofers




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    Re: please critique my setup I am planning.

    gotcha.... let me see what we can figure out



    My short lil references from who i bought from.. Tallc, BassAddictJ, lilkman2202, IamMurph, CJ8501, bumpincrv, and mrteacha

    2008 F250 powerstroke. too much performance done, stock stereo.
    2013 Honda Civic, 100% stock inside and out (wifes brand new car)
    2000 Honda Prelude. Son's first car, Sony POS HU, RF Punch 800a2, Alpine type R 10" in vented box tuned to 26hz.

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