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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomsday View Post
    The pioneer is a good price, the main difference i see is the onkyo will do internet but only 5.1, the pioneer cannot do internet but 7.1

    HDMI Pioneer has 4 input and Onkyo has 6 input

    I am not sure if the Pioneer will do Audio Return Channel if you have a smart TV (if you do you need this Audio Return Channel), but the Onlyo will do this


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    Re: New to Home Audio

    i will mentin since im late to the thread but if you want a 7.1 setup hdmi will carry it. normal optic/coax is only good for 5.1.




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    Re: New to Home Audio

    best place to get hdmi is with monoprice.com, unless somebody else can chime in for better prices




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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by naughtyca View Post
    The pioneer is a good price, the main difference i see is the onkyo will do internet but only 5.1, the pioneer cannot do internet but 7.1

    HDMI Pioneer has 4 input and Onkyo has 6 input

    I am not sure if the Pioneer will do Audio Return Channel if you have a smart TV (if you do you need this Audio Return Channel), but the Onlyo will do this


    good find on CL though
    I think I'd still go with the Onkyo just for the piece of mind that it's a new piece of equipment. I mean for the price difference you don't know what that Pioneer has been through. Just a thought.... Plus I don't really even like 7.1 it's too many damn speakers in my opinion and unless you spend an assload of money on a 7.1 system you're not going to hear a big difference anyway.




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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by DoesDad View Post
    I think I'd still go with the Onkyo just for the piece of mind that it's a new piece of equipment. I mean for the price difference you don't know what that Pioneer has been through. Just a thought.... Plus I don't really even like 7.1 it's too many damn speakers in my opinion and unless you spend an assload of money on a 7.1 system you're not going to hear a big difference anyway.
    Thanx I will scoop that one up, My local CL has no good deals tho




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    Re: New to Home Audio

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    I like the bookshelves cause really that's all you need and I prefer to have every speaker exactly the same, just easier to tweak it right, like your rears could sound to drab or flat, well if you eq it up then your fronts may be too bright then, or the sound shift to the back and all the sudden the back is brighter, just a preference of mine to make it easier
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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive View Post
    not always the case when the receiver also does up-conversion of other inputs to HDMI. then the signal can pass through a process.

    all connections are subject to digital loss. all contacts, plugs, etc. are sources of resistance.
    Well yes, if it's upconverting a non HD signal then of course there will be conversion. But a 1080p HDMI signal would need no conversion and resistance or not there is no quality loss with a digital signal.




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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by naughtyca View Post
    The pioneer is a good price, the main difference i see is the onkyo will do internet but only 5.1, the pioneer cannot do internet but 7.1

    HDMI Pioneer has 4 input and Onkyo has 6 input

    I am not sure if the Pioneer will do Audio Return Channel if you have a smart TV (if you do you need this Audio Return Channel), but the Onlyo will do this


    good find on CL though

    when you say "do internet" what do you mean??

    I found this one as well for a good price

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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbagumper6 View Post
    Well yes, if it's upconverting a non HD signal then of course there will be conversion. But a 1080p HDMI signal would need no conversion and resistance or not there is no quality loss with a digital signal.
    you are assuming that the receiver doesn't do anything to the signal and that it switches it only. but if the receiver tries to always output 1080p then it has to pass every signal through a processor to analyze it.

    i have personally seen signal degradation when running HDMI through a receiver vs. direct to a TV. i do not recall if it was upconverting or not.

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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Still do not know what "Do internet" means




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    Re: New to Home Audio

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    Still do not know what "Do internet" means
    It means you can hook it up online and get pandora, tune in radio, slacker radio etc and can also get update online




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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by naughtyca View Post
    It means you can hook it up online and get pandora, tune in radio, slacker radio etc and can also get update online
    oh **** thats what I need then




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    Re: New to Home Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by naughtyca View Post
    It means you can hook it up online and get pandora, tune in radio, slacker radio etc and can also get update online
    I use Pandora and youtube from the Bluray once in a while for music. I also just run my phone through the receiver. Good sound from Pandora imo. Better than my phone for some reason.




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