Ok, so I was cruising around the internet and stumbled on this thread.
Thought the guy was over exaggerating that the tweeters were small.
Anyway, have a look...
http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...566#post341566
The British Ear
Ok, so I was cruising around the internet and stumbled on this thread.
Thought the guy was over exaggerating that the tweeters were small.
Anyway, have a look...
http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...566#post341566
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holy crap...now i'm regretting that i just bought radius r90's and r45's.....jeez those things are small.......
The British Ear
I was pretty amazed when I saw that picture....
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Except for the "shiny" gold color those look just like the crap Chinese tweeters you can buy at Radio Shack for $10.
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wow i seriously might put my r90's up for sale now.....that really frickin pisses me off lol......i just f*ckin bought them a month ago.....i mean they dont have any midbass as is....but those tweeters just scare me......
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Keep in mind that driver cost multiplied by ~5 to ~20 = loudspeaker MSRP.
This is a rough estimate.
If you bought a pair of loudspeakers for $500 at the store, MTM design,
the driver cost average can be anywhere from $4 to $16 each. But usually
the tweeters are cheaper and the mids cost more. So, the tweeter probably
cost $1 - $4 each.
If you found a loudspeaker using $100 tweeters and $100 mids, MTM,
expect that design to retail for $3000 - $12000, most likely it's on the high
side as my 5x rule is just being nice to those home audio manufacturers.
If you buy Polk, Klipsch, etc caliber loudspeakers, expect to find $1 tweeters.
Klipsch is clever though, they boost performance of the cheap tweeter by
using plastic horns. hehe
That's why people into audio like to DIY. We want to use the $100 tweeters
and midranges without having to spend $12,000 for a commerical design.
You can make your $600 MTM and have $11,400 savings {$12,000 - $600}.
The $11k savings can be used to learn your DIY hobby; You can buy tools, signal processing, etc.,
and if you have a good gamelan, you can expedite your learning if you use good methodologies.
The British Ear
I would have to agree that most manufactures use very cheap drivers, a lot of them use other companies driver and just 'modify' them. Meaning they change the part number or something...
The British Ear
I was going to say if you liked them then don't sell them. BUT, you seem to not like how they sound... Sorry man, didn't mean to ruin your day...Originally Posted by tC_skier
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Lol DIY FTW...
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The British Ear
Sometimes....
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lol idk....if i can get them sold on ebay for 350 (both sets, one pair of 45's and one pair of 90's) then i might....if not i guess ill just keep them. my goal was to get a small speaker that was pretty decent.....do you know of anything better whether DIY or not that would work and that i could build for 500 or less? im willing to forgo the surrounds if i can build a real nice front set for less than 500. any opinions on that?
WHATS A HOME THEATER?
true if you dont have the tools of the skillsSometimes....
i remember when i was looking at buying towers the paradigms look to be the same way very expensive but the drivers looked like $50 drivers. and this is espeacially true with polk and some other brands. i think my towers use a $80-100 midrange and a $50 tweeter and the woofer i think its a vifa not sure i remember someone posting it on the avs forum. the amp does look very powerfull and shows on the power strip when bass hits, it goes up to the peak of the current.
but b&w sure uses some unique speakers. but remember its not all in the drivers its also in the box and crossover.
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Those are the silver series... Which are monitors lower end. Also does not matter what they look like if they perform, even thought I do not like the silver series at all *LOL* Look at the D26N tweet, looks like it would perform equal to it's price tag, but is a stellar tweet which performs as well as tweets costing 3-4x more.
last, that is a neo tweet on the monitors which also leads to the uber small size... Overall not an impressive item visually at all but should not be dismissed just because it is thin..
Last edited by desertheat; 05-30-2007 at 06:21 PM.
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true...neo definitely would make it smaller, but it still got me thinkin about changin stuff up. basically i saw the new M602+ home speakers that CDT is sellin on their site which got me thinkin....i have no frickin midbass...whereas those things look like they could pound. i just dono anyone who has tried them....hell i dono if cdt even released them to the general public yet? just got me thinkin that i wanted more midbass a la my M6's in my car...
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What size room? Also yeah... monitor is a little thin on midbass. How long have they had to break in? I am not a big fan of the silver series but the gold series... is well gold to me if use properly
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