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    What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    My 12" Sony powered sub isnt cutting it anymore. I want something that will get louder, and have tons of bass if I crank up the volume. I'll be moving my home theater equipment to my basement, so it has to be able to fill a larger room.

    I was checking out the Dayton audio subwoofer kits over at partsexpress., but the one I would want with the Titanic sub is pretty expensive.

    My limits about $250-300.

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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    People with that budget would use a Dayton Quattro woofer with the 250w
    plate amp, total cost $200 plus the cost of building materials. You can hit
    the $300 when all is said and done. But that type of subwoofer is hardly
    a subwoofer in performance, but it may work. I don't know if it's going to be
    much better than what you have now.

    Next up on the food chain migh be a $200 Dayton Titanic woofer with maybe
    at least a 500w plate amp. $440 plus building materials.

    If I really wanted a good sub for a basement, then I'd look at the $300 woofers
    with 1kw plate amp. This puts you in the $650 price range plus building materials
    and it would probably last a long time with less upgrade itch.

    To name a couple of popular woofers;
    http://www.soundsplinter.com/rlp_pre...subwoofer.html

    Flavor of the month is this one.
    http://www.tcsounds.com/tc2000.htm

    Ported EBS style design for HT would be sweet. It would be a big box but
    it would destroy store bought product costing alot more.




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    I must say that those subs are a bit old news around this car audio forum. But, both have decent success as home audio subwoofers.

    However, you might be better off looking into a Fi Q or something like that. Cheaper than the TC but more powerful than the SoundSplinter. I have a Q 15 in my car and have been thinking about getting a 12" to experiment with in my home system.

    However, those speakers alone are the price of your whole system that you want to put together, so lets not get too ahead of ourselves here.

    I defiantly wouldn't expect too much out of that price range that you have there, especially prefab. If you can build the box yourself you would be much better off. I would not go smaller than a 12" if that is what you have currently. An, SSD 12" is $189 which gives you some amp options.

    With that speaker I would go with one these two:
    BASH 300 Watt
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-750
    BASH 500 Watt
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=300-752

    Personally the extra wattage can not hurt if you setup your system right. Also, were you thinking ported or sealed?

    I assume you can build a box yourself?







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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    I must say that those subs are a bit old news around this car audio forum.
    Every subwoofer is old news on car audio forums, lol...
    Old news doesn't mean bad news... It won't take too much to beat a Sony
    powered subwoofer, but why beat it when you can destroy it with a bigger
    budget. Makes no sense to spend $300 on an HT sub only to see it go obsolete
    after a short time. Save up and make a big EBS sonosub and it will last for years,
    but can you transport the beast downstairs, maybe something this size?
    http://dustin.bunnyhug.net/pics/driverampangle.jpg

    When choosing your amp, you need to choose wisely and match woofer impedance
    to amplifier's lowest impedance if you want best performance. If you buy DVC woofers,
    pay attention to coil impedance {series or parallel wiring} and then determine which amp is better suited.

    The plate amps are typically 4 ohm optimal, proamps are 2 ohm/ch or 4 ohm bridged optimal,
    and the Buttkicker amp is 2kw @ 2 ohm mono. This is a nice amp for about $250. Also
    check how you will crossover the sub.. external crossover or crossover that may come internal
    with certain amps.

    http://www.audio-discounters.com/bka1000-4a.html




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    A few years ago these were highly rated, and there seems to be a few new ones still available-



    YAMAHA YSTSW315

    10" cone driver
    250W Amplifier
    20 to 160 Hz frequency range
    Advanced Active Servo Technology
    BASS Selector
    Yamaha's QD-Bass Technology
    Magnetic Shielding
    Continuously variable high-cut filter from 40 to 140 Hz.
    Volume Control
    Signal Sensing ON/OFF:
    Phase Normal/Reverse Switch
    Dual Inputs
    Three-way speaker terminals
    Black Ash finish
    Dimensions (W x H x D)
    13 3/4" X 17" X 15 1/16"

    Buy It Now price: US $166.66

    http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-YST-SW315...QQcmdZViewItem




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    That Yamaha would be nice for a gaming subwoofer rig...




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    make a folded horn...



    I am about to get banned for my stupidity.

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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by thylantyr View Post
    That Yamaha would be nice for a gaming subwoofer rig...

    It sure would, but it was really well reviewed by the home theater mags about 4 years ago where they liked it as much as most $1,000 subs.

    (I think it originally sold for about $600 back then.)




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by thylantyr View Post
    Every subwoofer is old news on car audio forums, lol...
    Old news doesn't mean bad news... It won't take too much to beat a Sony
    powered subwoofer, but why beat it when you can destroy it with a bigger
    budget. Makes no sense to spend $300 on an HT sub only to see it go obsolete
    after a short time.
    Subwoofers have a very short "flashy" time on a forum like this where Hype rules a lot of posts.

    ALSO, if he doesn't have that budget it makes sense.



    And, you are very right about matching the impedances. You can't run a plate amp a .5 ohm, usually.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich B View Post
    It sure would, but it was really well reviewed by the home theater mags about 4 years ago where they liked it as much as most $1,000 subs.

    (I think it originally sold for about $600 back then.)
    Hmmm Interesting looking guy there.....







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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    ALSO, if he doesn't have that budget it makes sense.

    /begin joke
    I don't think anyone has a *real* budget for any hobby. Here's how an audio
    hobby works.

    Time index 1; You spend $200 on a speaker project because you have no more money.

    Time index 36; You are bored with your $200 speaker and need a new and better one. You spend $300 on the next project.

    Time index 66; After careful review, you need to go to the next level because
    it's not quite right yet. You spend $700 on the final project.

    Total cost: $1200

    $1200 is alot of money for someone to spend considering they don't
    have more than $200 to spend. lol ....

    /end joke




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Death By Bass View Post
    make a folded horn...
    You like bass horns?
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=12+pi




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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    Yea.... I started out with my dad's old speakers....

    Then got a new Receiver.

    Then a power conditioner.

    Then a new DVD Player.

    Then surround speakers.

    Then new Main channel speakers.

    Then another new DVD Player.

    Then a amp.

    Then a processor.

    Than a CD Player.

    Then a new TV....

    I don't want to know what's next.... But it will be expensive.... :|







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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    My Rl-i 12 and BASH 500watt plate amp was a simple solution.

    If I did something different, I'd probably go with a Fi SSD10 with copper coils and the BASH 500w sealed.

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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    I've always admired the Velodyne subs. I heard this one over at ABC Warehouse and it sounds pretty good!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/VELODYNE-DPS-12-...em220073423478



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    Re: What kind of powered home theater sub should I get?

    Quote Originally Posted by 93 saturn sl2 View Post
    I've always admired the Velodyne subs. I heard this one over at ABC Warehouse and it sounds pretty good!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/VELODYNE-DPS-12-...em220073423478

    If you heard it
    ... and liked it ...

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