the new speakers are another great success. these are called the Naughs. they use the hi-vi 3 " full range driver (bronze cone) and are in stuffed sealed bookshelf boxes. they're not as good as the diy towers, but they are actually better than advents still. hopefully when i get my camcorder back, i'll take some digi pics of all the speakers.
oh thanks to jimmy poo for the driver suggestions