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    Not enough receiver power?

    I have a Panasonic CQ-RX100U receiver (50x4 watts). I just bought 2 Dual 6 1/2 4 way DLS654 speakers (160 watts each) and 2 Dual 6x9 4 way DLS694 speakers. I use my aux and mobile phone to play music. My problem is the static when my phone volume is all the way up and my receiver volume is all the way up. The speakers are brand new, so I know it isn't the speakers. Is it because my receiver doesn't put out enough power to play audio to it's full potential? Should I buy another receiver or buy an amp?







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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    I have a Panasonic CQ-RX100U receiver (50x4 watts). I just bought 2 Dual 6 1/2 4 way DLS654 speakers (160 watts each) and 2 Dual 6x9 4 way DLS694 speakers. I use my aux and mobile phone to play music. My problem is the static when my phone volume is all the way up and my receiver volume is all the way up. The speakers are brand new, so I know it isn't the speakers. Is it because my receiver doesn't put out enough power to play audio to it's full potential? Should I buy another receiver or buy an amp?
    youre at max volume on both devices? literally max?



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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by youdoofus View Post
    youre at max volume on both devices? literally max?
    Yes. With what my receiver volume allows and my phone volume all the way up, it statics bad




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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    Yes. With what my receiver volume allows and my phone volume all the way up, it statics bad
    That is a bad combination. Is it static or distortion?



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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by youdoofus View Post
    That is a bad combination. Is it static or distortion?
    The sound of crackling. Which combination isn't good?




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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    The sound of crackling. Which combination isn't good?
    gotcha. if youre at max volume on the deck and the input source, youre very likely clipping your speakers. If its crackling, kinda sounds like a bad connection too



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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    I have a Panasonic CQ-RX100U receiver (50x4 watts). I just bought 2 Dual 6 1/2 4 way DLS654 speakers (160 watts each) and 2 Dual 6x9 4 way DLS694 speakers. I use my aux and mobile phone to play music. My problem is the static when my phone volume is all the way up and my receiver volume is all the way up. The speakers are brand new, so I know it isn't the speakers. Is it because my receiver doesn't put out enough power to play audio to it's full potential? Should I buy another receiver or buy an amp?
    that head unit is at best 10-12 real watts per speaker.

    Sony mex100bt is what you want if you dont want to add an amplifier.



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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffdachef View Post
    that head unit is at best 10-12 real watts per speaker.

    Sony mex100bt is what you want if you dont want to add an amplifier.
    that deck is shocking with its power output, no pun intended



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    I just added 5 SoundQubed stickers, and despite having no equipment upgrades, it added 76 DB!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by youdoofus View Post
    gotcha. if youre at max volume on the deck and the input source, youre very likely clipping your speakers. If its crackling, kinda sounds like a bad connection too
    Heres a video I just shot...
    https://youtu.be/289_HYEJuCo




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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    Heres a video I just shot...
    https://youtu.be/289_HYEJuCo
    ill have to check it out in a bit, im at work and youtube is frowned upon at the desk. Ill look at lunch unless someone else can chime in first who can check it out for ya



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    I just added 5 SoundQubed stickers, and despite having no equipment upgrades, it added 76 DB!!!

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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    Heres a video I just shot...
    https://youtu.be/289_HYEJuCo
    yeah you are just expecting too much out of that deck, its way past overdriving the internal amp.



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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    Heres a video I just shot...
    https://youtu.be/289_HYEJuCo
    have you tried it with a cd? should be a much louder source thatll not require you to crank the pi$$ out of the deck to get a decent volume level

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffdachef View Post
    yeah you are just expecting too much out of that deck, its way past overdriving the internal amp.
    not a surprising diagnosis based on the symptoms.



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    I just added 5 SoundQubed stickers, and despite having no equipment upgrades, it added 76 DB!!!

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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffdachef View Post
    that head unit is at best 10-12 real watts per speaker.

    Sony mex100bt is what you want if you dont want to add an amplifier.
    What about this deck?

    jvc kd-r520




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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Sounds like you're trying to get BASS from those Duals... maybe you are looking for too much... are the bass notes playing thru your speakers?



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    Re: Not enough receiver power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tynan View Post
    What about this deck?

    jvc kd-r520
    i dont see that as much of an improvement, if at all. The Sony is surprisingly powerful for just deck power. Seems like it even requires a 10 gauge dedicated power and ground with an affordable $20 kit.

    https://www.crutchfield.com/p_007CK1...ield-CK12.html


    Jeff even said that its dyno proven to put that kind of wattage down.

    But have you tried a stronger source to check if its just the noise floor causing your lack of volume issues (which is whats making you turn that thing all the way up in the first place)



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    Stock front and rears (theyre actually squirrels listening to headphones that ive trained to sing what theyre hearing)

    I just added 5 SoundQubed stickers, and despite having no equipment upgrades, it added 76 DB!!!

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