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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

    I would get something with atleast 4v preouts




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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

    Quote Originally Posted by momax_powers View Post
    I would get something with atleast 4v preouts
    What are 4v preouts and what do they do?



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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

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    What are 4v preouts and what do they do?
    They are the rca outputs from the back of the deck used to send signal to aftermarket amplifiers...the ddin you are looking at has 2v preouts for front, rear, and sub. The higher the output voltage the cleaner/stronger audio signal you will have going to your amp(s) thus reducing distortion at higher volumes.




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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

    Quote Originally Posted by momax_powers View Post
    They are the rca outputs from the back of the deck used to send signal to aftermarket amplifiers...the ddin you are looking at has 2v preouts for front, rear, and sub. The higher the output voltage the cleaner/stronger audio signal you will have going to your amp(s) thus reducing distortion at higher volumes.
    Distortion comes from improperly set gains, which is not an issue whether it's 2V pre-outs or 4V pre-outs. You might hear a little more hiss from the speakers if you can compare a 2V head unit to a 4V head unit, but it's situational.

    That price for the X5500BHS just makes me shake my head in disgust. It's a great deal for you, but don't ask a Pioneer shop to match that price.




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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

    Quote Originally Posted by trumpet View Post
    Distortion comes from improperly set gains, which is not an issue whether it's 2V pre-outs or 4V pre-outs. You might hear a little more hiss from the speakers if you can compare a 2V head unit to a 4V head unit, but it's situational.

    That price for the X5500BHS just makes me shake my head in disgust. It's a great deal for you, but don't ask a Pioneer shop to match that price.
    true...i was speaker in a broader sense since the OP didnt know what pre-out were i didnt want to get into gain and level matching....to be more specific with lower voltage you would need to increase the input sensitivity(gain) moreso than with the higher voltage signal to achieve the same volume and thus is many cases people take it too far thinking "oh its not as loud as it should be" but yes you are right




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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

    Quote Originally Posted by trumpet View Post
    Distortion comes from improperly set gains, which is not an issue whether it's 2V pre-outs or 4V pre-outs. You might hear a little more hiss from the speakers if you can compare a 2V head unit to a 4V head unit, but it's situational.

    That price for the X5500BHS just makes me shake my head in disgust. It's a great deal for you, but don't ask a Pioneer shop to match that price.
    Why do you say that?

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    true...i was speaker in a broader sense since the OP didnt know what pre-out were i didnt want to get into gain and level matching....to be more specific with lower voltage you would need to increase the input sensitivity(gain) moreso than with the higher voltage signal to achieve the same volume and thus is many cases people take it too far thinking "oh its not as loud as it should be" but yes you are right
    So I should find a different unit? I don't have speakers that aren't stock besides my sub.



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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

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    Why do you say that?



    So I should find a different unit? I don't have speakers that aren't stock besides my sub.
    Just save yourself the headache and Amp the front stage at the same time.



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    Just save yourself the headache and Amp the front stage at the same time.
    I was going to keep stock speakers until I can afford 2 tweeters and 2 Sundown NeoPros



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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

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    I was going to keep stock speakers until I can afford 2 tweeters and 2 Sundown NeoPros
    Might as well just keep the headunit uninstalled honestly, it's much easier to do it all at once or at least run wires for the fronts now



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    Why do you say that?
    Which statements are you asking for clarification on?




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    Which statements are you asking for clarification on?
    Shaking your head in disgust.
    What's a pioneer shop?



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    Re: Better deal than this for the price?

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    Shaking your head in disgust.
    What's a pioneer shop?
    A shop that sells pioneer. He says that because amazon is selling that radio for close to or below dealer price. Internet shops selling equipment for dealer price is killing off local stereo shops.




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    A shop that sells pioneer. He says that because amazon is selling that radio for close to or below dealer price. Internet shops selling equipment for dealer price is killing off local stereo shops.
    Oh I understand.

    Is there another hu that competes with this at the price?



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