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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    Quote Originally Posted by sjv13 View Post
    How much better is the silver tinned copper wire than the CCA? And how much worse is is than the OFC? It's just a mix of 30% ofc and 70% cca, right?
    yes this is right but it also has more strands than the ofc or the cca .actually is a pretty nice wire for what it is ,and takes the same power as the ofc .so i'd it isn't better than the ofc ,about the same performance wise




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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

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    yes this is right but it also has more strands than the ofc or the cca .actually is a pretty nice wire for what it is ,and takes the same power as the ofc .so i'd it isn't better than the ofc ,about the same performance wise
    How is the OFC better than? What justifies the higher price?




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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    100% copper ,which is what the competitors like myself would rather run




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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

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    100% copper ,which is what the competitors like myself would rather run
    99.96% copper :P

    But if it takes the same power, then I dont see what's better?




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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

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    99.96% copper :P

    But if it takes the same power, then I dont see what's better?
    true , but the heat factor on some of the hybrid and cca wires is something that most competitors dont wanna deal with or worry about




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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    @sjv13 ; @neo_styles ; Liking hertz components. Checked them quick but ill look more into them. They look nice.

    If i can afford these are nice
    Hertz HSK 165 6.5" 2-way Hi-Energy Component Speaker System HSK165:Amazon:Car Electronics

    If not then these look good
    ESK 165 HERTZ 6.5" 2-WAY HI-ENERGY COMPONENT SPEAKERS MIDS TWEETERS CROSSOVERS:Amazon:Automotive

    Thoughts?
    Ill check some others out later and post back here.



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    HSK, definitely. Just make sure you do a proper install on those and you'll be more than satisfied with the midbass. Crossovers are a bit big, so plan on trunk-mounting those.



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    Sounds good. HSK?
    Im running some 15s right now, those 6x9s get a little overpowered by them. Think with those components on the proper amp will shine through the bass?



    "When I listen to a stereo loudspeaker playback in my room and an auditory scene has formed in my mind, how would I know that what I hear is an accurate replica of an auditory scene that could be had at the recording venue? Or more generally, that this is an auditory scene that could have existed at all?"


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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

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    Sounds good. HSK?
    Im running some 15s right now, those 6x9s get a little overpowered by them. Think with those components on the proper amp will shine through the bass?
    I don't see why not. They're nice speakers. If you had a bigger budget you could step up to the Mille. Those things are beast.



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    lol id imagine



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    @neo_styles ; Really liking what i see with Rainbow



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

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    @neo_styles ; Really liking what i see with Rainbow
    I had the sound line comps and coax in my 04 ion redline and they're definitely amazing with midbass. They just felt kinda lifeless to me, though. I guess the best way to describe them would have been "clinical," where the music's there, but it lacked soul.



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    How are those jbl's treating you



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

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    How are those jbl's treating you
    Still digging em. Waiting on my RCA splitters to show up so I can give them more juice. The eclipse amp I have is rated at 45Wx4 and 120x2 bridged at 4ohms. Definitely would rather have the 120.



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    Re: Pioneer Sonic Center Control and Sound Retriever

    Yea. they 80 rms?
    Whats the splitters for?



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