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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    Yeah. Thankfully someone answered that. I didn't think about the HU's internal amp.
    I don't even play the stereo now.
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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by groundpound4200 View Post
    holy crap. Well of course it doesn't clip. It states it doesn't have an internal amplifier. But wowzer. That is expensive.

    what makes it just destroy the 80prs? the 31 band eq? along with the 4 24 converters and the 32 bit?



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    holy crap. Well of course it doesn't clip. It states it doesn't have an internal amplifier. But wowzer. That is expensive.

    what makes it just destroy the 80prs? the 31 band eq? along with the 4 24 converters and the 32 bit?
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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    holy crap. Well of course it doesn't clip. It states it doesn't have an internal amplifier. But wowzer. That is expensive.

    what makes it just destroy the 80prs? the 31 band eq? along with the 4 24 converters and the 32 bit?
    Those are the main reasons it sounds so good, plus it is 3 way plus sub active capable and looks sexy. I'm sure there are other things, but I have never played with one nor really looked into one. It's too expensive for me.



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    Those are the main reasons it sounds so good, plus it is 3 way plus sub active capable and looks sexy. I'm sure there are other things, but I have never played with one nor really looked into one. It's too expensive for me.
    x2 1200 is definitely breaking the bank.

    isn't the 80prs a 3 way?
    and what is sub active capabilities?



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    x2 1200 is definitely breaking the bank.

    isn't the 80prs a 3 way?
    and what is sub active capabilities?
    The 80prs is 3 way, high and low front stage plus sub. The p99rs is 4 way, high, mid, and low front stage plus sub. Sub active is the same as any other speaker, I just kinda said it weird in that post.



    Quote Originally Posted by ducatipaso View Post
    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gckless View Post
    The 80prs is 3 way, high and low front stage plus sub. The p99rs is 4 way, high, mid, and low front stage plus sub. Sub active is the same as any other speaker, I just kinda said it weird in that post.
    I thought there isn't much to tweak on subs since the signal is mono.
    Hmmm. The HU being 3 way doesn't really mad anyways correct. Because once you run it active. Aren't you relying on the amplifiers crossovers then? The audison has an intense amount of crossovers.



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

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    I thought there isn't much to tweak on subs since the signal is mono.
    Hmmm. The HU being 3 way doesn't really mad anyways correct. Because once you run it active. Aren't you relying on the amplifiers crossovers then? The audison has an intense amount of crossovers.
    Active vs. passive is concerning the crossovers. Active uses some sort of digital processing, passive is done mechanically with capacitors, resistors, etc. Almost all subs are crossed actively, don't think I have ever actually personally seen passive subs that actually use a crossover, though I'm sure it happens in home audio. Even though the sub signal is mono, you can still adjust a lot, such as levels, crossover points and slope, time alignment, things like that.

    The HU being 4 way does matter very much. It allows you to set your crossover points and slopes very accurately on the HU, and doesn't require external processing. Using the crossovers on an amp, if they are there, is usually hard to do because they only have rotational knobs that aren't detented. To get 3 way fronts otherwise, you would need a processor that breaks that signal down and does the same thing. I guess you could run a full range signal out of any HU, split it to 3 channels of an amp, and use the crossovers there as well, but I don't think I have seen that.

    When you use the crossovers on a HU, you generally don't use them on the amp, only to get a steeper rolloff at a certain frequency. Not sure how @keep_hope_alive is going to have you set it up, but my guess is you will be using the crossovers on the HU and running the amp as full range. That's how my 80prs is set up at least.

    And of course, he will most likely know much more than what I just wrote, and probably point out that I am incorrect somewhere. This stuff gets confusing sometimes, and I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything.



    Quote Originally Posted by ducatipaso View Post
    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    cliff notes?

    when it comes to setting up the HU and amp, I'll just have him call me so we can talk through everything.

    the Audison crossovers are much better than the Pioneer crossovers - so we'll use them as much as we can.

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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive View Post
    cliff notes?

    when it comes to setting up the HU and amp, I'll just have him call me so we can talk through everything.

    the Audison crossovers are much better than the Pioneer crossovers - so we'll use them as much as we can.

    the main reason for the HU is T/A.
    I was thinking that too. Because the audison has a lot of cross over settings.

    Yeah. That will make it much easier.



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