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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by gckless View Post
    How did you test them? I've seen more than one person test them with an O-scope and report they in fact clip. I would not believe any HU under $1k doesn't clip at max volume.
    distortion detector. using the 0db 40hrtz and 1khz track.

    I can throw an O-scope on it to double check

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhsdriller View Post
    try this...around 80hz
    the front/rear HPF is at 200hertz and it still doesn't help
    even if I keep the volume down they sound like they are playing too much bass

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitedragon551 View Post
    There are a few Alpine headunits that dont clip. The 9887 included. Its not highest end by any means, but its definitely not the lowest end either.
    isn't the 80prs the highest single din you can get?



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Ive tested the 80prs to 60 without clipping.



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    distortion detector. using the 0db 40hrtz and 1khz track.

    I can throw an O-scope on it to double check

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    the front/rear HPF is at 200hertz and it still doesn't help
    even if I keep the volume down they sound like they are playing too much bass

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    isn't the 80prs the highest single din you can get?
    you have the manual?
    I assume you're running it in standard mode and not active



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    yea i dont know how you tested the rcas on the deck but they do clip at 52-55. and go to front crossover setting 2 and turn the volume knob or turn the bone shape knob and set the hpf to 80hz same for the rears.
    ^^Should be this. Are you in network or standard mode? Either way, it's called crossover 2 or network 2 or something like that, may even be network 1 or 3, I don't know for sure without being in front of mine. There will be frequencies you can set front, rear, and sub crossover. I think choices are 63Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, 125Hz, and so on up to 200Hz. You just must have missed it in the manual. It's in there, I promise.

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    i didn't read the installation.
    i just read the full

    Edit: So many posts in the last minute! Something else could be wrong if you are getting substantial bass even with it set to 200Hz. Compare it to off, are they the same?



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Educate yourself.






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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by bhsdriller View Post
    you have the manual?
    I assume you're running it in standard mode and not active
    yes. until the audison lrx6.9k goes in



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by gckless View Post
    ^^Should be this. Are you in network or standard mode? Either way, it's called crossover 2 or network 2 or something like that, may even be network 1 or 3, I don't know for sure without being in front of mine. There will be frequencies you can set front, rear, and sub crossover. I think choices are 63Hz, 80Hz, 100Hz, 125Hz, and so on up to 200Hz. You just must have missed it in the manual. It's in there, I promise.




    Edit: So many posts in the last minute! Something else could be wrong if you are getting substantial bass even with it set to 200Hz. Compare it to off, are they the same?
    its sounds like my substage when the HPF is off. and if i turn the octave down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nismos14 View Post
    Educate yourself.
    go fvck yourself douch3



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    im going down to a audio shop tomorrow.
    Looking to have them make kickpods for my new Daytons to redo my crappy front stage.

    I'll have them O-scope the RCA.s
    Because when I did them with the DD1. they didn't distort.

    and neither did my previous kenwood x895. that HU sounded awesome.



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by jockhater2 View Post
    1st off. I can't wait to get my audison in so i can quit using the HU to power my front stage.
    2nd. can't wait to ditch my coaxials.

    ok. my front stage won't stop playing bass and distorting when I turn the deck up to 62.

    I set the octave to 12 because it seems to let the least amount of bass.
    the high pass filters are all the way up on the front and rear.

    and still the front stage speakers sound like they are going to blow.
    so i messed with the equalizer.
    I turned all frequency's from 20hz-315 to -6db.

    But now..obviously the subs are loud because of that.

    How can I get the front stage to please stop playing bass.
    You are running the front stage off of the internal amp, even if there is no clipping/distortion at the preouts, there will be loads of distortion from the tiny internal amplifier. If your sub stage is overpowering the highs, turn down the sub stage to balance it out until you get a properly amped front stage.




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    Quote Originally Posted by vaiboy View Post
    You are running the front stage off of the internal amp, even if there is no clipping/distortion at the preouts, there will be loads of distortion from the tiny internal amplifier. If your sub stage is overpowering the highs, turn down the sub stage to balance it out until you get a properly amped front stage.
    wow. thank God. an answer that makes sense.

    That has to be it. I didn't even think about it. The internal amp on the HU is clipping.
    Because I tested the RCA's and they do not clip.
    But that wouldn't matter since I am only using the SW RCA output.

    Well then. Until I get my audison in. I will just have to keep the volume down.
    THANK YOU!
    Perfect answer!



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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Oh man, totally missed the part where you were using internal amp. That's definitely why you are getting distortion. Doesnt explain why you are getting a lot of bass though. When you do start using an amp, don't use past 58 for your max. It will be dirty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gckless View Post
    Oh man, totally missed the part where you were using internal amp. That's definitely why you are getting distortion. Doesnt explain why you are getting a lot of bass though. When you do start using an amp, don't use past 58 for your max. It will be dirty.
    I will retest the RCA outputs.
    But when I tested all 3 of them the first time. The RCA's did not clip. But I will definitely double check.



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    Zed Audio Leviathan III on Morel MDT-29, RS100-4 & RS225-8 Daytons
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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    My problem is that you're asking very basic questions and you're buying very high end equipment. You can learn most of this on your own.






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    Quote Originally Posted by nismos14 View Post
    My problem is that you're asking very basic questions and you're buying very high end equipment. You can learn most of this on your own.
    never said i was a sexpert.
    and didn't even think about the HU's internal amp. completely forgot about it.

    you must hate camry's bro



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    Tuned to 36 hertz. About 4.5 cubic feet, 8" Aeroport (made by dbeez)
    Zed Audio Leviathan III on Morel MDT-29, RS100-4 & RS225-8 Daytons
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    Re: ok. this is really pissing me off. Pioneer 80prs

    Quote Originally Posted by whitedragon551 View Post
    Set the HPF and LPF. The slope is just how fast those frequencies roll off.

    There should be a HPF/LPF for lows, mids, highs. And depending on how you have it set up. Sometimes you can set your left and right equal or they can be independent. If they are independent it will be a HPF/LPF/Slope for lows, mids, and highs for the left side and HPF/LPF/Slope for lows, mids, and highs for the right side.
    I bet this is the issue. Every deck is different btw. My 80PRS has 0 clipping at 61, but a decent amount at 62. On all 3 pre-outs.

    I did the exact opposite when I got mine, set my xover points, but forgot to set the slope. Same effect.



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