Pioneer vs Alpine

[Gangsta]

Pioneer cancled the Deh-p6000ub. The DEH-P4200UB seems to be the new replacement for it except it only has a 3 band EQ unlike the 7 band EQ for the 6000.

Now i'm comparing the

Pioneer DEH-P4200UB CD receiver at Crutchfield.com

vs.

Alpine iDA-X303 Digital media receiver at Crutchfield.com

I'm familiar with Pioneers and i really like the ipod controls. Which head unit is better? Is that a fair comparison. Recomend other headunits in that price range if you want.

[350zspl]

not familiar with the particular models your asking about

but generally i prefer alpine head units , they tend to have more voltage out , and i have seen so many pioneer pico fuses go bad and need rca's grounded that i gave up on pioneer

just my .02 cents

[9515ROB]

2volt from alpine 4 from pioneer def pioneer

[9515ROB]

i might have a 6000 ub for sale real soon if u are interested

[Rich B]

Keep in mind that the Alpine HU's that start with "IDA" have no CD mechanism, they're only for MP3 and iPod use.

You can connect an Alpine CD changer, but that adds (at least) $200 to the price.

[Louisiana_CRX]

Pioneer was good back in th' day ...but that pico fuse crap has about ruined them...pretty much placing them in the same ballpark as Pyle...it was gimmick Pioneer came up with in hopes of screwing the consumer outta money in non warranty repairs at $75 an hour labor on that pretty much backfired

[350zspl]

look into a alpine 9886
discontinued so they are cheap new
4 volts or 5 volts out

[nateberrier]

I run the older pioneers and alpines. Most new **** is just garbage from either company. alpine LOVES using 2v preouts for some reason now and a good eq from either of them is asking too much. I would look for an old 9855, they can be had for cheap. For a new deck with features I would suggest a Kenwood. Im not super familiar with them but I bought my first kenwood and it beats any of the others for the price. EVEN HAS TIME ALIGNMENT.

[KRYPTO]

Older Alpines have problems reading cd's and file burned cd's. But they do have 4volt preouts and good eq settings.
I'm running Alpine cda-9856 3rd alpine just due to the features (all 3 have had cd issues)

[Louisiana_CRX]

That settles it...buy a Kenwood ...or at least till kenwood problems start rolling in...I know about the MASK cable breaking...and the dirty rollers but they went away from the MASK...and I think they use a new loading mechanism so the new models might be pretty good

[KRYPTO]

What about JVC? I used to have one a looong time ago, they any good still?

[Louisiana_CRX]

What about JVC? I used to have one a looong time ago, they any good still?

I think the older ones are and maybe higher end JVC's are ...I just ordered a new remote for one of my JVC's today Its a EXAD series KD-LHX550 it was loaded with features

[9515ROB]

That settles it...buy a Kenwood ...or at least till kenwood problems start rolling in...I know about the MASK cable breaking...and the dirty rollers but they went away from the MASK...and I think they use a new loading mechanism so the new models might be pretty good

buy a SKIPWOOD noooo you cant play a dam cd while you are beating with out them skiping. and they have problems reading usb

[KRYPTO]

eclipse or clarion?