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RF also had the rebadged Denons. And uhh yeah of you don't want everything that the unit has, don't use the features? The 6140 is still way cheaper than 203/505 with the add-ons, and it includes all that stuff for almost the same amount of money (or less) than the base price for the Alpines. I don't think the Kenwood has HD Radio built in, but I don't even listen to radio so I don't care. Bluetooth, navi, volume knob and adjustable lighting (as well as user friendliness) make the Kenwood > Alpine for me. Also looks more OEM too.
2005 Escape XLT Sport
Alpine CDA-9835 - Audison LRx5.1k - Hertz MLK 2 TM - Hertz ML1600 - Hertz HX300
Audison Wiring - Optima Red Top - Dynamat Extreme
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[Traded with] James Bang, MovnZ28
People don't like the Alpine navi units because you have to buy a separate GPS unit. And thats just ghey.
2007 Red Ford Focus ZX4 SE
- Clarion DXZ955MC -
- MB Quart RSD216 - 2 MB Quart RWE-354 in 4 cubic feet sealed -
- MB Quart DSC4125 - Audiopipe AP1500.1D - Optima Blue Top -
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I've heard the Denon ones and know nothing about rebadged Premiers. Different strokes for different folks I guess? I've demoed Kenwood and Alpine side by side and the Alpine sounds better to me with no add-ons. Like I said before so what if Kenwood has it all built-in. It still doesn't add up for me. I also listened to some cars at the World Finals with Kenwood double dins and they are good decks, but still behind Alpine Imo. Btw, I only paid $415 for my Iva-w505. You say add-on Navi is ghey, but it would be the same price if it was built-in. Same with Kenwood. If you buy a DDX and add Navi, it will be the same price as a DNX.
****... $415... i thought i got a deal when i found it for 750 at an authorized dealer (without tax and free shipping)....
i wonder what i'd be able to find the P1 for
Alpine CDA-9887, JL Audio 300/4, JL Audio 250/1, JL Audio VR650-CSi, Boston Acoustic FX93, Dual eD 11Kv.2 Subs Enclosed Box
I've got the W505 and I like it for the most part. My objections are the same as everyone else's regarding the unit, (i.e. small clock, Nav route hard to cancel, etc), but overall not a bad unit.
I purchased the W505 from Crutchfield but got the P1 from a site called Barney's Electronics as they were cheaper. I used the P1 for about a month when one day is simply died and wouldn't power on. I contacted Barney's and they exchanged the part for me so was relieved with that, however not sure if they're an "authorized" Alpine dealer or not so if my P1 breaks again I may need to get a Square Trade warranty if the manufacturer's warranty isn't covered.
I recommend if you're going to buy either unit ensure you're buying from an authorized Alpine dealer just to be on the safe side, even though they're usually more expensive...
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I use the 505/701 combo with a second gen Blackbird, and I love it. I had a couple of the first gen Blackbirds, and hated them, but the glitches have been worked out, and this unit is great. I love the fact that I can dock it in the head unit and control everything with the touch screen, and then pop it out and slap it in the extrenal dock in any other vehicle.
For example, a few weeks ago, I went camping up in Colorado. I drove all the way there from Texas with the unit docked. Then, I rented a Jeep to spend a day doing 4x4 trails, and it took all of about 10 seconds to move the Blackbird to the Jeep windshield and plug it in. Then, when I got out of the Jeep to do some hiking through the wilderness, I carried the Blackbird in my pocket. Good luck doing all of that with any other nav.
I liked Kenwoods way back in the day, and my girl liked the looks of them, so I put one in her car. Never again. The user interface on that thing makes me want to choke someone. Granted, it's a single din, not a video unit, but I refuse to own another Kenwood after dealing with that thing. The manual is nearly unusable as well. Bleh.
Anyway, if you have the dough, you can't go wrong with Alpine. I think their nav is fine, and the new stuff (is it M300?) is supposed to be a lot better, even. Sadly, I think they've stopped making the Blackbirds.