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    Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    It's a tough decision...I'm tempted to go Alpine because of a better iPod interface and looks, but also to go pioneer because of SQ and bluetooth already installed. Anybody know if you can play an ipod through bluetooth somehow? Can anybody shed some light on the four to help me decide?







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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    I had a comparable Alpine unit with iPod... an 880PRS and I have a 980BT now.

    I love the 980 just slightly more than the 880 but both of em were a lot better then the Alpine.. pioneer is a winner in my book and the 980vs880 is basicly whether or not you want something classy or flashy.

    plus the bluetooth is the **** man i love it.

    the ipod interface on the alpine and the pioneer in my eyes weren that far apart.. same **** different curb



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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    just wonderin why you say that the pioneers were better? just because of sq, features or what?




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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    the 880, at least on paper kills, the 9887 in tuning features. if your main concern is SQ and tuning capabilities then get the 880.

    i don't know much on the 9800bt, but i don't think it has quite the same tuning features as the 880. not sure if it can go active and i know it doesn't have the L/R EQ.

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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    9800/980 cannot go active.

    SQ on the 9887, in my experience is better as it starts of with a flatter fr right out of the box, for some reason.






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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Quote Originally Posted by nismos14 View Post
    9800/980 cannot go active.

    SQ on the 9887, in my experience is better as it starts of with a flatter fr right out of the box, for some reason.
    are you sure the 980/9800 can't? according to pioneers website it can http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...-P9800BT?tab=B

    i says 3 way crossover.
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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    I'm sure. It needs to say Pro mode. They consider "3-way crossover" to be the sub and the hpf/lpf for front/rear.






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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Quote Originally Posted by nismos14 View Post
    I'm sure. It needs to say Pro mode. They consider "3-way crossover" to be the sub and the hpf/lpf for front/rear.
    The 880 and 800 says 3way xover also and the lower level stuff says 2 way xover so I'm sure the 9800/980 is active capable



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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_k View Post
    Turn the gain down? Quit running impedance at unstable?

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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Quote Originally Posted by Macklessdaddy View Post
    The 880 and 800 says 3way xover also and the lower level stuff says 2 way xover so I'm sure the 9800/980 is active capable
    Do you have first hand experience? The 880 and 800 also say PRO mode, the 980 does not, and it does not run active. I have used it.

    3-way, as stated = a crossover for front rear and sub.

    Pro mode = active.






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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Whoa,please don't beat me up as I was just unsure myself,Now do YOU have firsthand experience with this unit,Can someone with this HU answer this question once and for all

    Oops I see you have used it,now you won your 1st e-fight with me,You happy now



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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_k View Post
    Turn the gain down? Quit running impedance at unstable?

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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Quote Originally Posted by nismos14 View Post
    Do you have first hand experience? The 880 and 800 also say PRO mode, the 980 does not, and it does not run active. I have used it.

    3-way, as stated = a crossover for front rear and sub.

    Pro mode = active.
    but why doesn't the other Hu's say 3 way xover as they have a xover for front ,rear and sub



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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_k View Post
    Turn the gain down? Quit running impedance at unstable?

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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Quote Originally Posted by nismos14 View Post
    Do you have first hand experience? The 880 and 800 also say PRO mode, the 980 does not, and it does not run active. I have used it.

    3-way, as stated = a crossover for front rear and sub.

    Pro mode = active.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macklessdaddy View Post
    Whoa,please don't beat me up as I was just unsure myself,Now do YOU have firsthand experience with this unit,Can someone with this HU answer this question once and for all

    Oops I see you have used it,now you won your 1st e-fight with me,You happy now
    If you re-read my first post I only stated facts, nothing argumentative. Not sure why you took it that way. Maybe a little e-sensitive? I'm sorry maybe next time I'll throw in some smileys so you're sure of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Macklessdaddy View Post
    but why doesn't the other Hu's say 3 way xover as they have a xover for front ,rear and sub
    The 2-way ones only have high pass and low pass - the high pass effects the front and rears both, not individually, and then the sub has low pass.






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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    Quote Originally Posted by Macklessdaddy View Post
    The 880 and 800 says 3way xover also and the lower level stuff says 2 way xover so I'm sure the 9800/980 is active capable
    Quote Originally Posted by Macklessdaddy View Post
    Whoa,please don't beat me up as I was just unsure myself,Now do YOU have firsthand experience with this unit,Can someone with this HU answer this question once and for all

    Oops I see you have used it,now you won your 1st e-fight with me,You happy now

    If you were unsure, why did you say you were sure previously with no first hand experience?






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    Re: Pioneer 9800BT vs. 800/880PRS vs. Alpine cDA-9887 vs iDA-100?

    If you cant bandpass the mids then its not active capable.



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