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    Pioneer "LOUD" button

    I have an older Pioneer HU. It came w/ the truck and the model is a DEH-16.

    Was wondering if any of you that own pioneer HU's use the LOUD button (Low, Med or High) option.

    I have one 12" RE w/ a US AMP XT 1600.2 and I did bridge it and it seems to get louder by using the LOUD button, but sounds like POOH and no power to the sub w/o using the LOUD button on the HU

    I messed w/ the SLA option, crank up the +6 on the eq and it just does not sound good but BASS does come alive, but only when I use the loud button option, which I prefer not to use though...

    I'm thinking that I should get another HU. What do you all think??


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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    Did you set the gains properly the first time around? I would reset them and stay away from the loud button.




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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    yeah. Turn the source level adjustment (SLA) up to +4 and run your bass flat at 0.



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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    LOUD button = bad!!



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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    Quote Originally Posted by whitemax View Post
    Did you set the gains properly the first time around? I would reset them and stay away from the loud button.
    Yep - sure did. I played w/ the low, mid and high settings, SLA (when playing a CD) and it just sounds like a weak signal to the sub. Press the loud button and (low, med or high) and as I mentioned above, gets loud, but man... I can only get to about volume level of 7 and no more then 10 (its sounds uncomfortable/really bassy).

    Press the loud button off, I can crank it to 20 and weak.


    Then when listening to the radio... BLAH!!!




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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    I had the same problem that you are having today. I got it all sorted out.

    I ended up with EQ settings of:

    Low: +6
    Mid: +1
    High: +1

    I turned down the gain on my amps, and raised HU volume to 55/62. Perfect location before clipping. (HU clipping, not amps)

    I then set the gains on my amps. Turned out to be perfect.

    Beware, though, that this is just for a reference, because you do not have the same amps as me, and the HU might not be identical either.

    I would suggest starting with +4 or +5 on the sub, and HU volume to ~45. Set the gains on the amps and see how that sounds.



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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgMtl View Post
    LOUD button = bad!!
    I know.. thats why I do not want to use it

    I think I might swoop up a clarion, Alpine or Kenwood deck.
    I never been a fan of the pioneer decks.




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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    Oh, and I did all the settings with the loud function turned OFF. It can be done, just need to tune it some more.



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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    Does your deck have the "bass engine" BBE button....that one works pretty well without getting a lot of the boominess



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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    See this is where I have to be careful. Reason being is I am using coaxial speakers speakers and they are wired directly to the HU. So clipping can get bad, real bad at higher volume . That is why I want to allow more power from my amp to the sub. Even if I LFE the amp, set all gains high... its no help getting to sound right w/ BASS. Press LOUD button BOOOOM!! Really BOOMY. $hit rattles everything, but like I said, I cannot go to loud on the volume as my coaxial speakers start to clip. lol


    Quote Originally Posted by ultimate157 View Post
    I had the same problem that you are having today. I got it all sorted out.

    I ended up with EQ settings of:

    Low: +6
    Mid: +1
    High: +1

    I turned down the gain on my amps, and raised HU volume to 55/62. Perfect location before clipping. (HU clipping, not amps)

    I then set the gains on my amps. Turned out to be perfect.

    Beware, though, that this is just for a reference, because you do not have the same amps as me, and the HU might not be identical either.

    I would suggest starting with +4 or +5 on the sub, and HU volume to ~45. Set the gains on the amps and see how that sounds.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx_dad View Post
    See this is where I have to be careful. Reason being is I am using coaxial speakers speakers and they are wired directly to the HU. So clipping can get bad, real back at higher sounds. That is why I want to allow more power from my amp to the sub. Even if I LFE the amp, set all gains high... its no help getting to sound right w/ BASS. Press LOUD button BOOOOM!! Really BOOMY. $hit rattles everything, but like I said, I cannot go to loud on the volume as my coaxial speakers start to clip. lol
    Do you have bass blockers on your coaxils? I assume that's where most of the distortion is coming from, especially if you're running a full signal to the speakers.



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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    that deck does not have a dedicated sub out, does it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXBMPN View Post
    that deck does not have a dedicated sub out, does it?
    Not sure what you mean by that, but it has RCA Preouts (x1 pair) (Rear)

    Here's more info about the deck http://www.audioallies.com/getitem.a...=DEH-16&Sys=GG




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    Re: Pioneer "LOUD" button

    Quote Originally Posted by ultimate157 View Post
    Do you have bass blockers on your coaxils? I assume that's where most of the distortion is coming from, especially if you're running a full signal to the speakers.
    Humm, what are bass blockers? Is it like a capacitor to shut off bass to the coaxils??




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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx_dad View Post
    Humm, what are bass blockers? Is it like a capacitor to shut off bass to the coaxils??
    Exactly.

    http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...locker&tp=3216

    This will help you out a lot, allowing you to turn up the volume some more without distortion.



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