There is alot of discussion and comments on various head units to buy and what not to buy. This forum has been very helpful and I thank you all for that. On the other hand when I hear about some good quality head units that get trashed in here it really makes me wonder. IE: Does anybody remember what your old stock head units sounded like?? Boy I sure do and it ****** lol. When my brother gave me a hand me down sony unit it sounded so MUCH better, but obviously there are MUCH better out there. I have since upgraded my whole system by leaps and bounds. I am very happy with what I have now The point is the high end Eclipes, Pioneer's ect... are awesome when u compare them too Alpine's lower end models for example, but as far as I am concerned anything Alpine is good but there r just better out there. I would have given my left nut to have some of these head units on here that are being trashed compared to my old stock unit. I try to keep that in prospective around here especially for the new people in car audio. Just my 2 cents worth Once again I have learned alot in here and for that I am thankful.