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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

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    Interesting. Using a 0db 1khz sine wave on CD mine didn't clip at all. 50hz clipped at 39. Great HU!
    Clearly heard my speakers distort horribly at 38. . think 50hz clipped at 39. This concerns me.

    I clipped at 38 not 37 sorry about that







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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Just wanted to pop my head in here and let you know I haven't abandoned the thread quite yet, but I am test-driving the Eclipse CD7200mkii for a few months. It'll be interesting coming back to the 8400 as far as the interface is concerned, but on the SQ end, they're in totally different ballparks. So if someone wants to take the reigns on this one for a while (cough @calebkhill ; cough), be my guest.



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    but on the SQ end, they're in totally different ballparks.
    Really, how so?




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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by calebkhill View Post
    Really, how so?
    For starters, the Eclipse has TA, 8-band PEQ with adjustable Q, and 8V preouts. Aside from that, the whole unit just has this feel to it that reminds me more of listening to vinyl at home. It's not as digital and all-forward like the 8400.

    The 8400 does have, to its credit, a MUCH easier user interface. Just wish the SQ was on par with it. If pioneer could somehow manage to use the double din interface of the 8400 with the SQ awesomeness of this Eclipse or even the Pio P99RS, they'd have an absolute gold mine on their hands.



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    For starters, the Eclipse has TA, 8-band PEQ with adjustable Q, and 8V preouts. Aside from that, the whole unit just has this feel to it that reminds me more of listening to vinyl at home. It's not as digital and all-forward like the 8400.

    The 8400 does have, to its credit, a MUCH easier user interface. Just wish the SQ was on par with it. If pioneer could somehow manage to use the double din interface of the 8400 with the SQ awesomeness of this Eclipse or even the Pio P99RS, they'd have an absolute gold mine on their hands.
    Explain what PEQ and adjustable q are, I've been looking can't find an answer.

    And I couldn't take this thread over I'm still learning myself.




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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by calebkhill View Post
    Explain what PEQ and adjustable q are, I've been looking can't find an answer.

    And I couldn't take this thread over I'm still learning myself.

    Take a look at this tutorial from JL. They only focus on one frequency range, but it could be applied to any others offered in the EQ set.

    JL PEQ

    http://www.jlaudio.com/header/Suppor...ualizer/287545



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by richericks View Post
    Take a look at this tutorial from JL. They only focus on one frequency range, but it could be applied to any others offered in the EQ set.

    JL PEQ

    JL Audio header Support Tutorials Tutorial: Parametric Equalizer
    Nice man.I'll download the pdf and get more familiar.in the meantime, @neo_styles ; or @richericks ; if your up for it could you post a few pics or maybe a couple links to your or other units showing the the way the application is displayed on the unit?

    I can see how this feature puts it ahead of the 8400 in tuning and sq.




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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Yeah, PEQ takes some getting used to. I'm not home right now so I really can't get you pictures, but here's my definition in a nutshell:

    Where graphic EQ lets you make adjustments in level at a specific frequency, a PEQ (parametric) will allow you to change multiple frequencies within a particular band. The q is that bad that you pick. So if there's a whole region (say from 1k-2k) that needs to be cut, you can do so with one setting.

    Here's a good link on learning how to use PEQ:

    DIYMA Car Audio Forum - View Single Post - How to use a PEQ effectively?



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    Yeah, PEQ takes some getting used to. I'm not home right now so I really can't get you pictures, but here's my definition in a nutshell:

    Where graphic EQ lets you make adjustments in level at a specific frequency, a PEQ (parametric) will allow you to change multiple frequencies within a particular band. The q is that bad that you pick. So if there's a whole region (say from 1k-2k) that needs to be cut, you can do so with one setting.

    Here's a good link on learning how to use PEQ:

    DIYMA Car Audio Forum - View Single Post - How to use a PEQ effectively?
    I get the gist I'm gonna read up some.I'm interested my self. I just want to deer how it looks on the hu. I'll try and google stone pics but posting some shots would save an hour long search Lol. You know how google could be sometimes




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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Some great specs for a DD! Nice!



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

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    Some great specs for a DD! Nice!
    Whose specs? I'd say yours are pretty impressive if I don't say so myself (looking at your sig).



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH



    Here's an example of an eq curve with PEQ applied. You can see where the person adjusting has applied certain Qs. Some overlap, some are allowed to roll off.



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post


    Here's an example of an eq curve with PEQ applied. You can see where the person adjusting has applied certain Qs. Some overlap, some are allowed to roll off.
    That's the key. Is the eclipse your testing a double din




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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by calebkhill View Post
    That's the key. Is the eclipse your testing a double din
    Sadly, no. Single DIN. Like I said earlier, I really am missing the ease of use of my 8400, but it's going to be really odd going back to a system with no TA. If I can keep call enough, I'll skip past the MS8 and snatch up a PS8 by the end of the year for my in-the-future Tahoe build.



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    Re: Pioneer AVH-P8400BH

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    Sadly, no. Single DIN. Like I said earlier, I really am missing the ease of use of my 8400, but it's going to be really odd going back to a system with no TA. If I can keep call enough, I'll skip past the MS8 and snatch up a PS8 by the end of the year for my in-the-future Tahoe build.
    I hear you. Have you noticed a difference in you r sq between the two units




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