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    Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    Review of Head Unit: Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    I have noticed that no one on this forum has written a review about this deck so I will give it a shot.

    Sound Quality gets a near perfect 9.75/10
    (I now hear a fair amount of distortion in some of the recorded music so its almost a draw back. Clean music is crystal clear, but hard rock isn't as clean. There is an audio clean up feature which does help but its not 100%.)

    Sonic accuracy is a 10/10
    (Wow... is all I can say)

    Ease of use 4/10
    (I am being generous with that rating... But after everything is set its pretty simple.)



    The install...
    This is by far the fastest install I have ever done with a head unit. Absolutely simple to drop into a vehicle.

    The audio features...
    You must, must, MUST read the manual to figure out the settings on this deck. Things that were simple on the HU I replaced (Eclipse CD7200 mkii) are impossible to find with out reading.

    The deck is designed around an active crossover setup, and the default settings are geared to an active setup. The first mistake Pioneer made was how to access the most basic audio configuration. To get into the display the deck needs to be completely powered down and the right nob needs to be pressed and held down to get into the audio configuration. Figured that out after 30 min of trying to set it up with the deck on... giving up and referring to the manual which I had to cling to, to finish the task.

    With the speaker configuration set (4 full range speaker and 2 subs). I could move onto the Auto Time Alignment/Auto Eq settings. Ran into another road block. The deck must be powered down to access the automatic adjustment settings. With the deck off, you hold the EQ button and it turns on in auto-adjustment mode. The tuning mic, which needs to be UN-plugged when you first start auto-adj. plugs in on the bottom side of the faceplate. Pioneer programmed the deck to tilt down so the user can see the mic jack underneath the faceplate (about the only intuitive thing they did to help the confused user...)

    I did a bunch of reading and the best way to calibrate the unit is to be sitting in the car (engine/AC off) while the thing calibrates so it can take into account your body and the position which you sit. I bit the bullet and breathed slowly with the mic pinned to my glasses while the thing sent noise to each channel. Very good time alignment (considering I am not running active). The autotune does boost the mids a bit overzealously. I have read elsewhere that this IS a problem with how Pioneer designed the autotune feature.

    (new 8/25/12 3:41 AM) I tried to set the crossovers manually and force the Auto-tune-alignment to set the equilization accordingly. Found that it was best to just let the deck decide the crossover points by itself, the sound had a lot more range and brightness. The deck uses the rear stage for only mids and the front stage for only highs.

    (new 8/25/12 7:05 PM) I was poking around with it again today, I let the deck use its default cross over points and auto ta and eq, then I set the crossover points manually. I like the output much better now. Might be a good solution for those not running active crossovers. You will still need to use the equilizer to balance the levels some, this isn't a 100% fix.

    Warm creamy goodness from each channel, provided I set the equilizer accordingly for the type of music I am listening to, the sub was very balanced which really surprised me even more than the highs. The auto EQ is OK, but should be improved upon.

    Some other thoughts...

    The black/white display is kind of small, but the overall look of it in the dash is really neat.

    The buttons are very small and hard to find when driving.

    The individal speaker levels are difficult to set, but auto EQ helps that.

    The detail of the music is unsurpassed.

    The learning curve is HUGE to overcome. I worked in IT for years and consider myself fairly tech savy and can pick up user interfaces quickly. This deck is completely unintuitive to set up and adjust, but it is completely worth learning.

    Pioneer includes a USB cord and an iPod adaptor, usually these are optional accessories.

    (new 8/25/12 3:41 AM) The Fm tuner picks up stations I could never get before. Really detailed and clear, even stations with poor signals sound good. I would suggest not adding the HD tuner, the deck's tuner does a great job on its own and your don't have to deal with HD drop off/cut out.

    (new 8/25/12 4:14 AM) The deck has three visualization display options - two types of bar meters and McIntosh style power meters. Three guesses which I am using. lol

    (new 8/25/12 4:14 AM) The deck has an internal battery which saves the settings even if the car's battery is disconnected.

    (new 8/25/12 4:14 AM) It has a voltage meter read out on the display, but its not displayed when its showing the audio graphics discussed above.

    Its a pricy deck, I dropped $750.00 for it (open box) and consider myself lucky for getting it at that price.

    I would really think twice about paying $1200.00 retail for it...

    These are my intial impressions and I will definately add more tomorrow.

    Specifications
    From Pioneer with my occasional input

    Main Features

    TunerAM, FM (24 pre-set stations).

    Plays
    • Your CD collection (including CD-R, CD-RW)
    • MP3, WMA, WAV, AAC compressed audio files on CD and USB (<--- The music out of the USB is quite good for both .wav and .mp3 files. I had issues with the songs from last Pioneer deck when it read from a micro SD card, it caused distortion. I was happy to see this was not the case with the p99rs.)
    • Your iPod, iPhone or USB device via the rear USB input (<--- The music out of my iPhone is the best I have ever heard for compressed music.)

    • Other music devices via a front auxiliary input. (<--- The aux input is on the front in the form of a 2.5mm jack, it would have been nice if it had a standard RCA aux input in the back, but you can buy an adaptor if you want it for an RCA aux input.)

    Front PanelFully detachable, automatic slide.

    Display IlluminationWhite OEL.

    Button IlluminationRGB (multi-colour). (<--- You can make the deck virtually any color with RGB levels, standard on most Pioneer decks.)

    Rotary Commander (+)Yes.

    Remote Control Included (Steering wheel). (<--- It comes with a harness to fasten the remote to the steering wheel... not really crazy about it.)

    Multi-Language Display (+)Yes.

    Cellular Telephone Auto Muting (+)Yes.

    Connectivity

    Aux-in (+)Front. (<--- 2.5mm jack not the standard 3.5mm)

    Hard-wired Remote Input (+)Yes.

    High Voltage Output (+)5 V.

    IP Bus (+)Yes.

    iPod Direct Control (+)Yes. (<--- I prefer to control my iPhone from my iPhone...)

    RCA Preout (+)Gold plated, 4 sets (High, Mid, Low, Subwoofer).

    Sub-display Output (+)Yes.

    USB InputYes (Rear, Digital Direct).

    Bluetooth

    Bluetooth Ready (+)Yes, via optional CD-BTB200 Bluetooth adapter. (<<<--- WTF they give me free USB and iPod cables but NOT a bluetooth adapter... FAIL LOL)

    iPod Compatibility

    iPod ReadyYes, via optional cable CD-IU50. (<--- My unit came with this in the box...)

    Works with iPhoneYes.

    Compatible Generations September 2005 onwards.

    Supported Functions
    • Battery charging
    • List browsing
    • Music playback (track up/down, fast foward, rewind, pause, repeat and shuffle).

    Tuner Features

    Radio Data System (RDS) (+)Yes.

    Traffic Announcement (+)Yes.

    Best Stations Memory (BSM) (+)Yes.

    Auto Alternative Frequency Search (+)Yes.

    Auto/Manual Frequency Search (+)Yes.

    PTY Search (+)Yes.

    CD Player Features

    CD Text (+)Yes.

    USB TextYes.

    Disc Title Memory (+)Yes.

    Last Position Memory (+)Yes.

    Random PlayYes.

    Audio

    Audio Components (+)
    • Built-in 4-channel DSP
    • Copper chassis
    • OFC power supply .

    Advanced Sound Retriever (+)Yes. (<<<---- This feature has its ups and downs. Sometimes you hear more detail sometimes you hear more distortion....)


    Attenuator (+)Yes.

    Auto EQ (+)Yes. (<<<--- Love it!)

    Auto Time Alignment (+)Yes. (<<<--- Love it!)

    115 dB Signal to noise ratio for CD's (<<<--- Very nice!)

    BalanceYes.

    D/A (24 bit) ConverterDigital direct.

    Display Off Mode (+)Yes.

    Graphic (Dual L/R) Equaliser31-band. (<<<--- The fact the deck has 31 bands is impressive, but makes auto EQ even more important, because the user cannot adjust the L/R channels only the auto EQ can. The user can adjust the net equilizer which is distributed to all channels.)

    High Pass Filter (+)Yes.

    Low Pass Filter (+)Yes.

    Loudness (+)Yes.

    Source Level Adjuster (SLA) (+)Yes

    I will conclude by saying this is a wonderul and impressive deck. The sound is very rich and detailed, but there are weakness and things that need to be added/addressed in later models.

    1) Pioneer should let the user control all EQ channels for each speaker, not just one Eq for all the speakers. The auto EQ does a good job ballancing the left and right channels, but there is no way to see (visually) where the auto EQ detected peaks/valleys.

    2) The user interface needs a lot of work and the manual needs to be rearranged with a first time setup in mind. It starts with basic functions and jumps around...


    Sample video (wish my iPhone had a better speaker)

    Shows some of the visualizations and tuner. Click to play.

    Last edited by West; 08-31-2012 at 02:57 PM.




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    Re: Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    Can I have it now?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettr n' Revrse View Post
    Can I have it now?
    Well if your ever around Knoxville you can check it out.




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    Re: Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    Good review.



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    Review is done for now. Hope this gives some insight.




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    Re: Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    where did u get it at that price?



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    Re: Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    Quote Originally Posted by IAWJ4.7 View Post
    where did u get it at that price?
    They come up on eBay from time to time. One a few months ago for (800 + shipping). This one was originally posted for (850 + shipping) seller accepted my offer of (750+15$ shipping). Very pleased, it had absolutely no scrates on the faceplate and a small one on the side, not visable. If you are looking for one definately check ebay a few times a week, I would not pay $1200 for it. Also this is a 2011 model they added the internal battery and volt meter post 2005-6 so thats something to consider.
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    Great review. Wish I could drop the coin.




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    Quote Originally Posted by R34P3R View Post
    Great review. Wish I could drop the coin.
    Thanks.

    I know... definately took a chunk out of my bank account. Look for used/open box ones, espically if you are running active.




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    The AUTO TA/EQ doesnt actually choose the crossover settings for you. The unit has a "Default" crossover setting which is set at something like 8k 12db slopes. Its the same on every unit. This was confirmed by multiple other people.

    What Ive found works best is to set my crossover/slopes myself and let the unit figure out the TA. I never like the way Auto EQ sounds, seems like it boosts midrange too much...



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    Quote Originally Posted by rc10mike View Post
    The AUTO TA/EQ doesnt actually choose the crossover settings for you. The unit has a "Default" crossover setting which is set at something like 8k 12db slopes. Its the same on every unit. This was confirmed by multiple other people.

    What Ive found works best is to set my crossover/slopes myself and let the unit figure out the TA. I never like the way Auto EQ sounds, seems like it boosts midrange too much...
    Good info on the crossovers. I like the auto EQ on my setup, but that deck is really touchy about tuning and the position of the microphone. That sound retriever really boosts the mids and some of the highs, could that have influenced it?

    Do you keep the EQ flat or do you manually adjust it?

    The deck gives me a weird TA setting puts the subs 155in away and the distances from the other speakers are off (at least by what the deck displays). It sounds good and when I try to enter the distances manually it sounds off.
    Also I keep the Attenuator on low things sound much better that way.

    Any thoughts on this?




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    I dont use the Sound Retriever. Its pretty much a gimmick for lossy mp3's, sort of like Alpines Media Xpander. Featured like these have no business on a deck like this IMO...

    I start with the EQ flat, them make cuts from there.

    The auto TA set my subs at 155 also, but Im only running a two way front stage right now. The distances seem correct though.

    Not sure what you mean by Attenuator on low though..



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    Quote Originally Posted by rc10mike View Post
    I dont use the Sound Retriever. Its pretty much a gimmick for lossy mp3's, sort of like Alpines Media Xpander. Featured like these have no business on a deck like this IMO...

    I start with the EQ flat, them make cuts from there.

    The auto TA set my subs at 155 also, but Im only running a two way front stage right now. The distances seem correct though.

    Not sure what you mean by Attenuator on low though..
    Thanks very much. I redid the config and its pretty awesome. Turned the auto eq off, redid the eq manually. I found that the auto time alignment sounded better that way... That autoeq messes with the levels for every speaker which on a passive set up alters what time alignment setup sounds best.

    Tuning that deck is a bit of a pain, but its totally worth it... I was listening to some songs today that sounded worlds better. Songs I didn't even like before...

    The Digital Attenuator is hard to find. With the deck off hold down the big right button to bring up the "advanced menu" if you cycle through there, there's a digital attenuator which you can set to either Hi or Low. I suggest leaving it on low if you like metal rock/hard rock. I can hear some resonance from my tweeters if its on Hi for some songs. Well I still hear it but not quite as bad. Pioneer claims it can up the SQ, but it can add distortion to songs with weird levels.

    I am with you on the sound retriever, sometimes it sounds good sometimes not...




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    Re: Pioneer DEX-P99RS

    Just curious, how do you have your speakers setup with a front and rear stage?



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