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    Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    First, let me say that the 8454 is a great HU. It has an incredible array of features and the SQ is, as expected from Eclipse, top notch. My favorite features (not including SQ which was priority 1) of the 8454 are:

    1. Time alignment
    2. 10 band parametric EQ
    3. Built in RTA (more on this below)
    4. Built in X-over
    5. Ability to set the illumination to red (matches my VW's dash lighting)

    Ok, now for the problems. I'm having some difficulty with the RTA. I follow the manual to set the HU up to monitor the frequency response, but after the HU goes though the "Measuring" phase, I don't get a display of the response like the manual says I should. My audio dealer called Eclipse tech support (kinda rude IMO), and was told by someone who supposedly owns one that the response is only recorded to the HUs memory--not displayed. However, on page 127, the manual says:

    "Pink noise will be output from the speakers and measurement of the frequency characteristics will start. [Measuring] will appear on the display while measurement is in progress. When measurment is complete, measurement results will appear on the display."

    Either the tech support guy is wrong or the manual is. He said that it wouldn't 8454's display and that I needed to just write the results to the memory stick and use E-iSERV to upload the frequency results and tweak the HU's settings. E-iSERV is a really cool concept and I'm excited to try it...which brings me to problem 2.

    I can't seem to get the PC to recognize the memory stick if it's formatted by the HU, and the HU doesn't seem to recognize the memory stick if I format it using the PC.

    I have a SanDisk memory card reader. I formatted the disk following the instructions in the manual and it seemed to work fine (no errors or anything unexpected from the HU). So I did the RTA measurement and copied the data to the disc using the directions in the manual. Again, this seemed to work as it should (except for the measurment itself as stated above). Then when I loaded the memory stick into the SanDisk, the PC recognized that there was a removable drive but it said the disk wasn't formatted and asked if I want to format it. I figured I'd try formatting with the PC then re-writing the data from the HU, but when I formatted the disc with the PC, the data writing from the HU went so fast I didn't think it really wrote it to the disk (about 1 second as opposed to 3 - 4 seconds after the HU had formatted it). I checked anyway, and again the PC said the disk wasn't formatted.

    So do any of you few people who have the 8454 have the same problems? Can one or more of you try running the measurement and see what happens? Do you get the freq response to display or not? And have you had any problems loading the results up to your PC? I'm going to have the dealer try it using the 8454 they have on display and see if they can get theirs to work.

    Oh. I almost forgot problem 3 which is relatively minor, but is still an irritation. With the car's headlights on, the display lights of the HU intermittently pulse. Almost as if I'm turning the lights on and off. I'd think it was a loose illumination wire, but the rest of the HU's lights are steady. Just the whitish lights on the actual display are affected. Anyone seeing that problem?

    I'm wondering if my HU is having some problems. I might need to swap it out for a new one.

    Thanks for any input.







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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    Sorry to not answer your question, but how much did u pay for this unit and where?
    Do they sell the commander for this piece yet?




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    also, does the face come off?




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by loulax07
    Sorry to not answer your question, but how much did u pay for this unit and where?
    Do they sell the commander for this piece yet?
    Retail price is $599(not sure what the starter of this thread paid), and the commander advance unit is available(unless you wanted voice command, why would you want it?)



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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    so I guess $460+tax is ok?
    and voice command just seems kool lol
    they also have a nav unit for this Hu, right?




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    Hi Dedpool, or anyone else who may be able to answer this question.

    I recently bought the ECLIPSE CD8454. I had a pansonic HU before, and was able to simply mute out my subwoofers when I wanted to. So, if I had someone else in the car, who didn't like the deep bass, I could just mute it.
    But I'm not exactly sure, but it doesn't seem like i'm able to mute out the subwoofers using the CD8454. I've tried everything, read the manual, etc.
    Anyone, know if it is posible using doing that with the Eclipse HU?

    ALSO, Anyone else with CD8454, Is your remote delayed when you change the volume. Mine works fine, but when I try to change the volume, you have to turn the knob on the remote forever, before it really starts making a difference.




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    I have the same problem with the remote
    i've found that u need to rotate it real slow, like one click at a time, to work better, not fast

    the sub question, i don't know but i know what ur talkin about
    my pioneer had that




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    Hey guys, I have owned an Eclipse CD8454 for a while and I can speak up a little about the problems you are having.

    First, I have played with the E-iSERV option and my HU did display the measuring data. My memory stick reader is on its way so I have yet to transport the information onto my computer.

    Second, I am unsure why your headunit does not hold its illumination. I made sure my illumination wire was connected and that works fine for me. I would use your warranty and return it while you can.

    Lastly, about the volume control on the remote, it's slow with mine as well. I even have the volume control on the steering wheel and there is a delay with those controls.
    Last edited by tf1216; 06-15-2004 at 04:30 PM. Reason: wording problem




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by dedpool
    Oh. I almost forgot problem 3 which is relatively minor, but is still an irritation. With the car's headlights on, the display lights of the HU intermittently pulse. Almost as if I'm turning the lights on and off. I'd think it was a loose illumination wire, but the rest of the HU's lights are steady. Just the whitish lights on the actual display are affected. Anyone seeing that problem?

    I'm wondering if my HU is having some problems. I might need to swap it out for a new one.

    Thanks for any input.
    Did you connect it to the right illumination wire? I for my car there is a illumination wire and a dimmer wire.

    loulax07, that's a good price. I paid $520 for mine including installation.




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    I recently got a 8454 HU and haven't been able to read the memory stick with my PC after I format it with the deck. Anyone have a solution?




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    Re: Eclipse 8454 installed. Love it, but having some issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by dedpool
    Ok, now for the problems. I'm having some difficulty with the RTA. I follow the manual to set the HU up to monitor the frequency response, but after the HU goes though the "Measuring" phase, I don't get a display of the response like the manual says I should. My audio dealer called Eclipse tech support (kinda rude IMO), and was told by someone who supposedly owns one that the response is only recorded to the HUs memory--not displayed. However, on page 127, the manual says:

    "Pink noise will be output from the speakers and measurement of the frequency characteristics will start. [Measuring] will appear on the display while measurement is in progress. When measurment is complete, measurement results will appear on the display."
    Did you have to get yours very loud for the mic to pick up? Noise is blasting and the stupid thing keeps saying Vol Up

    Also, I have very faint red horizontal lines through the display. They are about .5cm appart. It doesn't affect the display pixels at all though. Anyone else have this?



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