Well guys i met two guys who were dead set on kicker solos being the baddest ish going. " oh man go get u any 3 subs and my one solo will put them to shame. Im telling u main the solo don't play." I believe was his exact words. Then he told me one 18 solo is way louder than my two 15s. Well i have 2 obsidian 12s that i have cut down because my sound stage is in need of major overhaul. So he looked amazed when he found out they were 12s but still managed to tell me he could beat me with one 15. Am i the only one that hates these nut licking ball busters. I mean i like anyone's system not one to rag someone but these kicker guys are something else.