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    Icon14 The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    I already own 2 of the pioneer champ pro that are 1000 rms a piece. I was offered a trade with someone for 2 of the black type r's that are 1000 rms a piece plus they want 50 bucks.(I'm pretty sure he's strapped on cash that's why he wants this trade) Forget about the 50 bucks for a second, will this be a good trade? I hear alpine's kill pioneer's but I never owned a pair. I'm not looking to buy new, but will these be an upgrade over my pioneer's? Which will sound better and bang more bass? Thanks for everyone's help in advance.







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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    stick with the pioneers




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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    Thanx for your input. Just curious, why do you say the pioneer's?




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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    Depends on the enclosure the subs are in, and wether or not you have good solid CLEAN power... I've owned BOTH of those subs, and for the money - The Pioneers are a really good bang for the buck if you give them what they need / set them up correctly... However, the new Alpine Type R's will get louder & play flatter through a wider frequency range than the Champ Pro's if you have em in the right enclosure with clean power, I just always go with the pioneers because they are about $60 cheaper per sub, and $120 makes a big difference when talking just a couple hundred into a set of twelves... If all you like or care about the most is really low & deep bass, stick with the Pioneers - That's where those perform the best




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    I would rather have the type r's.



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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    Quote Originally Posted by NIHL8ION View Post
    Depends on the enclosure the subs are in, and wether or not you have good solid CLEAN power... I've owned BOTH of those subs, and for the money - The Pioneers are a really good bang for the buck if you give them what they need / set them up correctly... However, the new Alpine Type R's will get louder & play flatter through a wider frequency range than the Champ Pro's if you have em in the right enclosure with clean power, I just always go with the pioneers because they are about $60 cheaper per sub, and $120 makes a big difference when talking just a couple hundred into a set of twelves... If all you like or care about the most is really low & deep bass, stick with the Pioneers - That's where those perform the best
    Agree with this, depends if your goal changed in sound. Those pioneers are my favorite budget sub. They don't sound the greatest but they pound. SQLish sorta?=Alpine
    SPL=Champ Pro.




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    i like my type r... just my 2cents




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    get the type Rs, you will be happier and not for the bass reasons. It will be a lot easier to sell compared to the pioneers when you want to upgrade in the future.



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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    trust me, on that lol, took forever to sell the pioneer(at a huge loss too) and it only took two days to sell the new gen type R close to retail value.



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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    The new R's are pretty impressive for the price, just sayin




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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    Thanks everyone for your input.




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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

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    trust me, on that lol, took forever to sell the pioneer(at a huge loss too) and it only took two days to sell the new gen type R close to retail value.
    This reply here is the reason I decided to go with the type R's. I know more people looking to purchase the type R's. Plus, my pioneer's are older than his Type R's so I think price wise the 50 is a real good deal.




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    Re: The black alpine type r 1000 rms or stick with the pioneer champ pro

    Quote Originally Posted by bigfluke 773 View Post
    This reply here is the reason I decided to go with the type R's. I know more people looking to purchase the type R's. Plus, my pioneer's are older than his Type R's so I think price wise the 50 is a real good deal.
    Worst case scenario you ask to hook em up and hear them before you seal the deal on the trade.. But since you already pulled the trigger what do you think? What box are you working with?




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