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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by DDtC View Post
    You dont know that cause you have never done it. I wasnt about to find out the hard way.
    My electrical is the strongest point of.my system ..i woundlt hesitate to add another 3500..and i sure like having 200a more amperage carrying power vs a single run of ofc..to each there own but with the voltage i hold..ill take it ..i hear ppl ranting abt good voltage stayin in the 13.s lol







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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by DDtC View Post
    Do you guys know what sets a audiophile apart from a ghetto basshead? Cheaping out on the important parts. If you can not afford good wire I'm sorry for you, if cheap wire is good enough for you to be pleased I will put you in the ghetto basshead catagory
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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Feel free to chime in here, OP is electrical engineer so he would have better understanding than me. But don't electrons follow on the outside of the wires? I mean I thought thats why people came up with copper clad aluminum in the first place, because it was supposed to be as good electrically, just less expensive? The only difference I have heard is that OFC has slightly better conductivity and less chance of catching fire?

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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by i2ain2thunder View Post
    Feel free to chime in here, OP is electrical engineer so he would have better understanding than me. But don't electrons follow on the outside of the wires? I mean I thought thats why people came up with copper clad aluminum in the first place, because it was supposed to be as good electrically, just less expensive? The only difference I have heard is that OFC has slightly better conductivity and less chance of catching fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pro-rabbit View Post
    You have a single m4 with that electrical, and decent alt so... No you shouldnt have voltage issues. To be honest I have ran a m4 with far less then you with little to no voltage drop. Those amps might as well be considered mythical creatures because all the claims on output with them.
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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    It's funny because the guy is trying to be technical, and then they have a sign in the back that says "Make it louder - pound your bass harder"




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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Bottom line is use what you want. When you have to pull it out and buy OFC to replace it then you just lost more cash then getting OFC from the start. I've wasted enough money on this hobby to do that. If you cant afford a few buck more a foot for cable then you need to take up a new hobby, maybe gardening



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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by DDtC View Post
    Do you guys know what sets a audiophile apart from a ghetto basshead? Cheaping out on the important parts. If you can not afford good wire I'm sorry for you, if cheap wire is good enough for you to be pleased I will put you in the ghetto basshead catagory
    This is a ridiculous conclusion. You don't seem to understand the science behind cable types and their current carrying properties.

    Further more, copper wire is unneccessarily expensive. Today May 3rd 2013 copper is around $3.50/lb. Why the FFFF does a 1foot length of OFC 1/0 cost $4 on average? The manufacturing costs is not very high in this industry due to efficiency. You can buy that same OFC 1/0 in a 1,000foot roll for much less than $3 a foot and the manufacturer still makes a hefty profit.

    Makes you think about the CCA wire too. I bet they can sell 2/0 CCA for a dollar a foot and still bank. Aluminum is 83 cents a pound today.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Beatin' View Post
    This is a ridiculous conclusion. You don't seem to understand the science behind cable types and their current carrying properties.

    Further more, copper wire is unneccessarily expensive. Today May 3rd 2013 copper is around $3.50/lb. Why the FFFF does a 1foot length of OFC 1/0 cost $4 on average? The manufacturing costs is not very high in this industry due to efficiency. You can buy that same OFC 1/0 in a 1,000foot roll for much less than $3 a foot and the manufacturer still makes a hefty profit.

    Makes you think about the CCA wire too. I bet they can sell 2/0 CCA for a dollar a foot and still bank. Aluminum is 83 cents a pound today.
    I completly understand how it works. I understand the fact that aluminum does not disipate heat as well as copper and heat kills efficency resulting in even more heat. I also understand that most of the people on this site try to find the cheapest way to be "loud" and dont care about anything else.



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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    I understand the fact that aluminum does not disipate heat as well as copper and heat kills efficency resulting in even more heat.
    .....that's why you need more aluminum. IE: 3/0 CCA = 1/0 OFC

    At that point, both products will do the job.



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    cause my trunk always hittin'!

    creating a proper sound wave. Step one, turn it up until clipping. Step two, done.

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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by Beatin' View Post
    .....that's why you need more aluminum. IE: 3/0 CCA = 1/0 OFC

    At that point, both products will do the job.
    Cool, go ahead run multible runs of 3/0. Have fun with that. And the cost will add up



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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-rabbit View Post
    You have a single m4 with that electrical, and decent alt so... No you shouldnt have voltage issues. To be honest I have ran a m4 with far less then you with little to no voltage drop. Those amps might as well be considered mythical creatures because all the claims on output with them.



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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Wow I never knew this was such a topic. I've never had a problem with cca wire in smaller systems when using 4ga and such, but when getting into huge systems I would have never thought people would argue the cca is better ofc. When your spending that much money just to save a little for cheaper wire doesn't make sense to me.




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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    Quote Originally Posted by RLDriver View Post
    I know. I have this addressed.

    Isnt he though?

    My amps are worth more than your entire system child.. and im not a bass head, Im much more into sq. AND i dont have to drive a TC

    No you dont. As ive already told your illiterate *** once.. I pulled OFC copper OUT to run CCA.. with no degradation, nor heat build up (tested).. again, my stereo does NOT require enough amperage to run 1/0.. be it OFC OR CCA. I run it because I have it your blanket statement is hilarious though.
    I'm glad you feel that way. Good for you. As for some of your comments.... Yes I am adorable... Not a child... I have a 150db SQ winning car( on a pretty decent stage)... I would not put a system like this in a Lexus, the wife has a $50000 ride. But like I said before, good for you internet warrior.

    Oh and if your amps cost more then my entire setup and you feed them with cheap wire you are a failure



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    Re: Reasons why you shouldn't use CCA wire

    I bought 2/0 gauge OFC (prolly more like 1/0) for like $2 a foot

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