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    Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    2001 F150 Extended Cab. Trying to keep it cheap b/c I'm a stingy ***** at the moment, but if this build turns out nice then I would like to continue upgrading and having fun.

    Going for SQ than SPL (read this has more to do with the setup than the equipment?)

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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    I'll spare you the criticism on the equipment choices other than the subwoofer and enclosure ideas. When you're restricted to an underseat box in a truck this changes things a lot from a trunk vehicle. The RE Audio box calculator is useless for this application, in my opinion. You can get one of several premade sealed boxes, but if you want a ported box you need to get it custom made to match your subwoofer and listening preferences.

    If you use a 4-channel amplifier with the intention of bridging the rear channels for a subwoofer you're almost always limited to 4 Ohms. That means a dual 4 Ohm sub is not ideal as you'd have to wire the coils to separate channels. It will work but I would only do it if there was no other option. You either need a separate mono amplifier for bass duties or you need to get a 4 Ohm or dual 2 Ohm subwoofer. If you get 2 subs you can do 2 dual 4 Ohm subs and have a final load of 4 Ohms.




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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    call up

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    2000-03 FORD SUPER CAB 2-10" DOWNFIRE


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    only companies i would buy a truck box from amazing boxes




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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    Bravox EXS10D-4 Extreme Duty 10" DVC Subwoofer 4 Ohm Per Coi 269-530

    and i would look at these for your truck since you have minimal space and these bad boys are small

    NANO from SounDigital - Car Audio Classifieds

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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    Quote Originally Posted by mclerico83 View Post
    NANO from SounDigital - Car Audio Classifieds

    nano sound digitals for 159 shipped 6x6 inches on a 100x4 and 400rms at 2 or 1 ohm
    Are these amps recommended for their performance or because they're "different" and cheap? You know there are many small amplifiers available with no mystery about them. I looked in that thread and it's not even determined if they sound good or make rated power. Also, that cooling fan is essential and if you haven't heard an amp with a fan that runs constantly you have no idea how distracting it can be. I will never run a fan cooled amp unless it only would come on when needed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpet View Post
    Are these amps recommended for their performance or because they're "different" and cheap? You know there are many small amplifiers available with no mystery about them. I looked in that thread and it's not even determined if they sound good or make rated power. Also, that cooling fan is essential and if you haven't heard an amp with a fan that runs constantly you have no idea how distracting it can be. I will never run a fan cooled amp unless it only would come on when needed.
    I have ran fan cooled amps with no problem. I have also ran soundigital but not the nano with no problems




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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    I know your ppi amps are small you are selling. Never used them but have heard great things




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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpet View Post
    You can get one of several premade sealed boxes, but if you want a ported box you need to get it custom made to match your subwoofer and listening preferences.
    I would love to make the custom made box. I actually really want to do this. Am I overstepping here and I should really really think about letting a professional build me one?




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    Quote Originally Posted by trumpet View Post
    ...dual 2 Ohm subwoofer...
    Is this a dual 2 Ohm subwoofer? Will it work for me? Sundown Audio E8v3 dual 2 - Sundown Only




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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    I have heard great things about the PPI Phantom 900.4 from you guys on this website. I am being cheap/want to work my way into things.

    Trumpet. Thank you very much for helping me. Do you think it would be more wise to get a 2 channel for the fronts for now, one that is big enough I could turn the gain down and add better comps later? Then I could take my time on building a box and watch on here or ask you nice people to point me in the right direction for a used monoblock? BTW are those amps I chose not a good selection (besides the cadence)?




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    Is the SA E8v3 a bad choice for under rear seat truck applications?

    Is my overall post/mindset going in the right direction? I have been reading the threads on this site and have been trying to inform my newb brain. It has only been a week, so please tell me if I am going wrong and maybe say YES! you bees doin something right! Thank you guys!




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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    I think your approach is fine. there are many choices out there for various audio pieces. I avoid Sony head units - they are just terribly made. Kenwood eXcelon has a nice selection at all budgets.

    sub placement will determine performance. under seat enclosures are usually poorly located to do much good. like putting a home sub in the middle of the room vs. the corner. while enclosure is important, placement determines performance.



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    Hmm I'm not following. I understand putting a home sub in the middle of a room is not ideal, but how does that analogy apply to this situation? If I downfire a sub, which is positioned on the passenger or driver side, then this placement will have poor performance? So, I should dismiss the idea of putting a subwoofer in my vehicle because for me the best place would be underneath the rear seat? I don't mean to be catty here, just feels like you are implying this.

    Also, I told you the only thing I have purchased is my HU, which is a Sony head unit. Why did you feel the need to chime in about how "terribly made" they are?

    Look. Your signature says, "have you been helped by me? i'd love to know. shoot me a PM." I want to talk to that guy...




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    Re: Read a TON from you guys. Hoping for some input please.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerej View Post
    Hmm I'm not following. I understand putting a home sub in the middle of a room is not ideal, but how does that analogy apply to this situation? If I downfire a sub, which is positioned on the passenger or driver side, then this placement will have poor performance? So, I should dismiss the idea of putting a subwoofer in my vehicle because for me the best place would be underneath the rear seat? I don't mean to be catty here, just feels like you are implying this.

    Also, I told you the only thing I have purchased is my HU, which is a Sony head unit. Why did you feel the need to chime in about
    how "terribly made" they are?

    Look. Your signature says, "have you been helped by me? i'd love to know. shoot me a PM." I want to talk to that guy...
    Because Sony head units are terribly made, it's his opinion on it and it's certainly not wrong. Didn't read everything, but did you have a budget in mind? I know you said you're going for SQ, but nothing you listed really lean towards SQ




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