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Re: epoxy resin vs polyester resin sealing inside subwoofer box

Originally Posted by
ciaonzo
I wasn't really talking about how fast the driver forces air in and out of a vent (which is a wide open area, not was I was asking you to picture), I was mainly addressing structural integrity and sealed enclosures to discuss the principal idea here, MDF being porous or not. My guess is if you wanted to get into surface roughness, drag coefficients for the various types, and wind speed as it pertains to laminar air flow, you would still be a off a bit in your thinking.
I don't bother thinking
I build, test, and learn from that. Too many scientifice principles that make sense on paper, but don't transfer over to the real world when it comes to car audio.
Touching upon surface roughness I've done bare birch boxes and some coated with resin and sanded up to 1500grit and waxed. Sometimes you gain .1 - .2 on the meter and sometimes you don't. And you would never hear that little of a difference by ear...
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Re: epoxy resin vs polyester resin sealing inside subwoofer box

Originally Posted by
mlstrass
Sometimes you gain .1 - .2 on the meter and sometimes you don't. And you would never hear that little of a difference by ear...
in my case as related to this thread you probably wouldn't want to hear it by ear cuz it sounds like garbage! box/wall is tuned to 60Hz 10 cuhes with a 220sq" port
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Re: epoxy resin vs polyester resin sealing inside subwoofer box

Originally Posted by
mlstrass
I don't bother thinking

I build, test, and learn from that. Too many scientifice principles that make sense on paper, but don't transfer over to the real world when it comes to car audio.
Touching upon surface roughness I've done bare birch boxes and some coated with resin and sanded up to 1500grit and waxed. Sometimes you gain .1 - .2 on the meter and sometimes you don't. And you would never hear that little of a difference by ear...
Yeah, I hear you. Trial and error is king. Myself, I probably wouldn't bother with much other than some sanding and a coat of resin inside for my applications. The glass in the corners is a great idea, too. Might try that next time.

Originally Posted by
audioholic
Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.
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Re: epoxy resin vs polyester resin sealing inside subwoofer box

Originally Posted by
ciaonzo
Yeah, I hear you. Trial and error is king. Myself, I probably wouldn't bother with much other than some sanding and a coat of resin inside for my applications. The glass in the corners is a great idea, too. Might try that next time.
No reason to glass corners. If I wanted strength I'd add a small 45 wood glued in place. Of course that can help or hurt score also, but again nothing you'd hear...
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Re: epoxy resin vs polyester resin sealing inside subwoofer box

Originally Posted by
akadj
in my case as related to this thread you probably wouldn't want to hear it by ear cuz it sounds like garbage! box/wall is tuned to 60Hz 10 cuhes with a 220sq" port
Ugh, I prefer loud musical set ups. I've played music with boxes/walls tuned around 42-43Hz and they still sounded fine. Not sure about 60Hz though....
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Re: epoxy resin vs polyester resin sealing inside subwoofer box

Originally Posted by
mlstrass
Ugh, I prefer loud musical set ups. I've played music with boxes/walls tuned around 42-43Hz and they still sounded fine. Not sure about 60Hz though....
yeah this car is set up for spl only.. not daily driver.. and adding the resin is not for construction strength to keep the box together. . its glued, screwed, double layer wood, and has threaded steel rod for bracing.
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