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    Re: Not impressed

    also, to the op. I told you a long time ago to hit up starr mountain to get the most out of a low wattage system. this is precisely why.



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    Re: Not impressed

    Quote Originally Posted by av83 View Post
    not true. the sub channel is clean up to 35/35 on +1db. +3db@34/35, +5db@33/35, +7@32/35, etc, etc. if you are setting the gains for your amps with the sub control all the way up on an Excelon, do so at 28/35. however, I chose to set mine at max volume with the sub out at 0db, since the front and rear channels will not distort at any volume.
    Didn't know that but, I have heard otherwise. I heard for a few people that the speaker channels start clipping at 27/28.



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    Re: Not impressed

    Nope. not on my x994, anyways. and another person had the same results with a 695. No clipping on the speaker channels @ 1khz, at any volume. it'll clip at 35 out of 35 @ 40hz, tho. which is why I set mine @ 34. the key is to not use the sub channel cranked up. you'll get a more balanced sound throughout the volume range with it set low, anyways.



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    Re: Not impressed

    op your not gonna get this:


    out of this:



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    Re: Not impressed

    Quote Originally Posted by av83 View Post
    Nope. not on my x994, anyways. and another person had the same results with a 695. No clipping on the speaker channels @ 1khz, at any volume. it'll clip at 35 out of 35 @ 40hz, tho. which is why I set mine @ 34. the key is to not use the sub channel cranked up. you'll get a more balanced sound throughout the volume range with it set low, anyways.
    I'll try it out. Will have to reset my speaker gains though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    I'll try it out. Will have to reset my speaker gains though.
    with the amount of power i have going to my highs, i rarely play it over 30. Even at 26 I can't make a decent in-car vid with my S3... too much for the mic.

    this is playing at 28, then lowering to 26 during the vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=lFKFwZJW9ik



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    Quote Originally Posted by av83 View Post
    with the amount of power i have going to my highs, i rarely play it over 30. Even at 26 I can't make a decent in-car vid with my S3... too much for the mic.

    this is playing at 28, then lowering to 26 during the vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=lFKFwZJW9ik
    Sounds nice I think I will set mine to 32. I didn't know you could go active on the KDC-X99x? I was planning on switching to the 80prs soon to go active.



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    Re: Not impressed

    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    Sounds nice I think I will set mine to 32. I didn't know you could go active on the KDC-X99x? I was planning on switching to the 80prs soon to go active.
    I set the mids LPF/tweeters HPF (3.55 khz@-12db) crossovers on my active-capable XR-4S using a CC-1. Then set the HPF on the deck(at 50hz in that vid) to bandpass the mids. The combo of amp/deck xovers work fine for me, and the cleanness of sound + 6 band T/A has me set on staying with this deck. I'm used to it, and have grown to love it.

    I think @ge_off_me ; wanted to see a vid like this... but i didn't really want to post it up in its own thread with it sounding like that. Some newb might hear it and assume mic distortion ='d speaker distortion. The set-up is crystal clear at pretty much any volume, though.
    Last edited by av83; 01-21-2013 at 11:36 PM. Reason: mentioned ge-off, and the following statement



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    Mike Singer 310 amp 6 phase
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    Re: Not impressed

    Quote Originally Posted by av83 View Post
    I set the mids LPF/tweeters HPF (3.55 khz@-12db) crossovers on my active-capable XR-4S using a CC-1. Then set the HPF on the deck(at 50hz in that vid) to bandpass the mids. The combo of amp/deck xovers work fine for me, and the cleanness of sound + 6 band T/A has me set on staying with this deck. I'm used to it, and have grown to love it.
    Nah not a fan of doing it that way. I want all of the tuning and crossovers set through the head unit. Also the time alignment on the 80prs is much better imo plus it has 32 bands of eq. I really love the natural sound this head unit has but, it is time for a change.



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    Amp: Phoenix gold zx600.2 ti
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    Quote Originally Posted by murph View Post
    Nah not a fan of doing it that way. I want all of the tuning and crossovers set through the head unit. Also the time alignment on the 80prs is much better imo plus it has 32 bands of eq. I really love the natural sound this head unit has but, it is time for a change.
    I play almost every thing dead flat on the eq (it was in the vid), so 32 bands are completely unnecessary for me. I'm not a fan of pioneer, but hear nothing but good things about the 80. I would like to have the adjust-ability of the mid range xovers, as well. However, my setup sounds pretty darn good considering i've built it on a fairly meager budget.



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    Quote Originally Posted by av83 View Post
    with the amount of power i have going to my highs, i rarely play it over 30. Even at 26 I can't make a decent in-car vid with my S3... too much for the mic.

    this is playing at 28, then lowering to 26 during the vid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=lFKFwZJW9ik
    this vid just sold me on these speakers. like i said in the youtube comment, cant wait to run me a pair of these.



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    set of PHD MF 6.5" comps
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    aquire a 2k amp
    aquire a 2 channel amp for front stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcons View Post
    this vid just sold me on these speakers. like i said in the youtube comment, cant wait to run me a pair of these.
    The mic on my phone does them no justice. They are incredible.



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    well i would even take the quality through the video. lol those sound beauitful man.



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    Completely seal off and deaden my doors
    aquire a 2k amp
    aquire a 2 channel amp for front stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcons View Post
    well i would even take the quality through the video. lol those sound beauitful man.
    responded to YouTube comment, and made public a couple more vids I took while I was in the car that afternoon.



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    Re: Not impressed

    I love when people compare a hatch to a van to a trunk to a truck to an suv.

    Having owned all forms of vehicles and installed sound systems in ALL of them, theres not even a remotely close comparison to the sound in any of them. I've had the SAME system in an astro, an eclipse, a bmw 327, a single cab mini truck, an extra cab mini truck, a toyota 4 runner, and a fullsize extended cab truck. And I tell you this much...it sounded like a completely different system in EACH vehicle. WORST OF THE BUNCH BEING A SINGLE CAB TRUCK.



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