Ok so I know kicker and alpine get dwarfed by many others.. but my new job (not to be mentioned for obvious corporate reasons) gives me a SUBSTANTIAL discount with these 2 brands.. like 5 percent above cost to them (70-80% off retail).. I am looking for your input on sub/amp combos between these 2 brands on the best possible system to create with these choices. I can only make 1 purchase per year so it has to be the BEST combo possible between them. Any input is greatly appreciated because I am not too familiar with alpine. I used to have 3 kicker L5's and 3 1000 watt kenwood amps which did the job nicely in my old car before I sold it.. back in 2007.. so I'm a little out of date with these brands.. then when I have enough money I will sell that system and get what I really want.. so for now its kicker vs alpine.. let the games begin!