How do you think this new system will sound?

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Originally Posted by ForceEdge

365 for a kicker12zxs1500.1 brand now doesn't sound TO bad though. Kicker does rated power and offers a birth sheet with higher rms then advertised. I just don't know why people are always so ready to bash them. What the hell have they done that was so wrong? Lol

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They're not terrible for a beginner amp mine was a kicker sx1250.1 and I hated it ...

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Originally Posted by ForceEdge

365 for a kicker12zxs1500.1 brand now doesn't sound TO bad though. Kicker does rated power and offers a birth sheet with higher rms then advertised. I just don't know why people are always so ready to bash them. What the hell have they done that was so wrong? Lol

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They're not terrible for a beginner amp mine was a kicker sx1250.1 and I hated it ...

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Originally Posted by ForceEdge

So two XFLs getting 750rms each would be better then 1 american bass HD12 getting 1500rms?
Can anyone else back this up also?
(Not doubting you man, just never heard american bass subs)

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As long as you keep the signal clean, The XFL will take 1500 like a champ, or 2 of them will get down on 750 ea. Heck, on the 1500w Kicker, I would do 2 600w AB TNT1222's wired to 2 ohms. Personally, I like the most cone area I can fit.. Some people run the XFL's on 2k rms daily here...but any sub is destined to die on too much clipping.
Here is the deal with American Bass..They have been in business and ran by the same people for almost 20 years. They have always been Competition oriented, and still are to this day. They have always been a word of mouth company and have been, IMO, one of the most successful brands in car audio competition. There are not many amps that can be driven damn near to a dead short (1/4 ohm)and survive like they do. Those VFL sumbitches just keep making power. And it is clean power too. I would take that VFL 100.1 over the Kicker any day of the week.

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Originally Posted by quackhead

as long as you keep the signal clean, the xfl will take 1500 like a champ, or 2 of them will get down on 750 ea. Heck, on the 1500w kicker, i would do 2 600w ab tnt1222's wired to 2 ohms. Personally, i like the most cone area i can fit.. Some people run the xfl's on 2k rms daily here...but any sub is destined to die on too much clipping.
Here is the deal with american bass..they have been in business and ran by the same people for almost 20 years. They have always been competition oriented, and still are to this day. They have always been a word of mouth company and have been, imo, one of the most successful brands in car audio competition. There are not many amps that can be driven damn near to a dead short (1/4 ohm)and survive like they do. Those vfl sumbitches just keep making power. And it is clean power too. I would take that vfl 100.1 over the kicker any day of the week.

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exactly!!!

Yes exactly you will only need to by another amp after that ab if you want more watts not cause it fails you

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Originally Posted by quackhead

As long as you keep the signal clean, The XFL will take 1500 like a champ, or 2 of them will get down on 750 ea. Heck, on the 1500w Kicker, I would do 2 600w AB TNT1222's wired to 2 ohms. Personally, I like the most cone area I can fit.. Some people run the XFL's on 2k rms daily here...but any sub is destined to die on too much clipping.
Here is the deal with American Bass..They have been in business and ran by the same people for almost 20 years. They have always been Competition oriented, and still are to this day. They have always been a word of mouth company and have been, IMO, one of the most successful brands in car audio competition. There are not many amps that can be driven damn near to a dead short (1/4 ohm)and survive like they do. Those VFL sumbitches just keep making power. And it is clean power too. I would take that VFL 100.1 over the Kicker any day of the week.

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This quote just made me rethink my amp options for my OA 12. Well put bb cakes.

so 4 pages later you still wanting Kicker amps? not sure why you even asked if you are determined on your kicker, buy kicker and you'll kick er self in the *** later

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Originally Posted by princ3cmo

I think it's mainly people trying to ween kids off Kicker and keep them from thinking Kicker is the end all car audio company....the problem is, they sometimes take it too far and make it seem like Kicker is garbage when it is far from that.

They do rated, they last, and if u feel like the price is right then you have every reason to buy it. It'll keep up with pretty much any other recommendation they could offer and beat some of them.

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I know bro. I feel like everyones making it like Kicker has become DUAL over night.. -_- I'm not saying there isnt better for the MSRP price they have some kickers for, but if you could find it cheap why not get it. It's cea comliant, has a 2 year warranty on them and comes with a Birthsheet with higher rated rms then advertised. Maybe it's just me. Kicker isn't terrible.. maybe not top quality.. but definitely not terrible.

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Originally Posted by naughtyca

so 4 pages later you still wanting Kicker amps? not sure why you even asked if you are determined on your kicker, buy kicker and you'll kick er self in the *** later

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I never said or argued that I'm still buying a kicker amp.. I'm just stating that I don't think there as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

I think this site has given you everything you need to decide, a lot of people here including me will say we think like you before.

good luck I hope you make the right choice.

birth sheets are just a marketing ploy yea it shows they do a little more than rated but so does my aq3500.1 and it doesnt have a birth sheet just something to think about

Thanks for all your input guys. Much appreciated