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    TC Sounds Motor's

    Lets clear a few things up (other than proto motors and hybrid motors) these are the foundation pf all tc production motors. There is no such thing as a tc3hplm and the new LMS 5400's use TC4LM's not 4HP's and etc, etc. This shite is driving me mad and making my OCD flare up lol.

    TC Sounds Subwoofer Motors

    Below is a list of standard motors that we use in many of our products including our own. Our OEM solutions may contain motors listed below but are not restricted to these platforms

    TC2+


    The TC2+ is our standard entry motor. Don't let our bigger motors fool you, The TC2+ will serve up massive amounts of output for its size and drive 12 even 15 inch cones with great efficiency. Subwoofers employing this motor typically embarrass others costing far more money. The secret is we simply don't use any cheaper parts to accommodate cheaper prices. We still provide a copper shorting ring, low carbon steel t-yoke and gap plate and twin 1" ferrite magnets with a wide 6.25" outside diameter. The TC2+ is designed to work with 2" voice coils and delivers BL Products exceeding 20 N*m. The TC2+ will perform diligently on 8", 10" and 12" drivers.

    TC9


    The TC9 motor is responsible for many great subwoofers that exist today. Accommodating a robust 3" voice coil design with two 1" ferrite magnets that are 7.5 inches wide, the TC9 can push 15" cones up to 3" peak to peak, and we give you all the bells and whistles that are found in our most expensive motors. The TC9 also has a highly flexible design that can be used in a variety of implementations from both sealed and ported cabinet designs using both under hung or overhung voice coil options. Because of the TC9's efficiency, we have even used our Linear Motor coil's in our TC9s with great success. This motor is often overlooked because we offer many more expensive kinds, but the TC9 can handle its own. With a 200 ounce ceramic magnet column and a 3" vc, the TC9 literally embarrasses most drivers found in subwoofers costing thousands of dollars, and in fact, it lives in more than a few itself. The TC9 is ideal for 10", 12" and 15" drivers

    TC3HP


    The robust TC3HP is a motor designed for massive output and minimal BS. This motor uses a hefty stack of three " ferrite magnets with an extra long T-yoke for very tall gap plates and can account for some serious SPL. The TC3HP is a highly versatile design and has been used in more implementations than any of our other motors. We use this same motor in our powerfull TC-3000 and a variation of it in our LMS-4000. The HP platform is not the cheapest we have, but it's ideal for applications that demand high excursion and efficiency with 10", 12" or even 15" diaphragms.

    TC3LM


    More or less a variation of our TC3HP ceramic motor with an extra magnet for a tad more BL, but more importantly, mechanical clearance and tolerance for an even larger shorting ring. This motor was designed with our linear coils in mind which tend to have huge strokes that require extra clearance. The magnet structure weights nearly 300 ounces and sports a 0.5 think gap plate. The gap plate also comes with a special threaded adaptor to allow fast and easy removal of the top assembly in the event of damage. The motor can be detached form the frame in a matter of only seconds.

    TC3LM Neo


    The TC3LM Neo is our newest edition the TC motor line up. It's T-yoke is designed to work with 3" voice coil's and the gap plate accommodates a rare and expensive 7.0" wide neodymium slug can aid to deliver a huge amount of magnetic flux. Essentially, this motor is more powerful, lighter, more efficient than any of our 3 ceramic motors, and we are able to get exceptionally low Q's and high Bl with a linear voice coil without having huge motor. The TC3LM Neo was designed specifically with our linear voice coils in mind. Our goal was to create an ultra low distortion subwoofer with ultra high efficiency that would work well in both a vented or sealed boxes. The TC3LM Neo is ideal for 10", 12" and 15" drivers.

    TC4HP


    The TC4HP is currently our second largest and most capable standard motor. Designed to accommodate both linear and non-linear 4" voice coils, the TC4HP utilizes and incredible 400 ounces ferrite column of three ultra wide 10 magnets wrapped around a massive beveled t-yoke and matching gap threaded plate to allow for fast and easy top assembly swapping. The TC4HP is the massive V12 engine that makes TC Sounds so popular, and it has been used in some of the most elite subwoofers in the world. Along with its impressive figures comes countless hours of research and testing that have been used to ensure the highest and most optimized and linearized motor constraints possible. It's not just about building a big motor, it's about building a motor that's efficient, accurate and versatile. The TC4HP is anything but cheap or light for that matter, but it delivers time and time again. This motor is ideal for 15" and 18" drivers.

    TC4LM


    With a 525 ounce magnet structure, the TC4LM is the largest and more capable motor we currently make. It is a variation of the 4HP motor with an extra magnet for higher mechanical clearance and slight higher motor force delivered to and extra long 4 linear voice coil. The TC4LM is the end game for 4 motors. No motor we know of is larger or more powerful than this one.

    TC4-Radial


    The TC4-Radial motor uses a unique array of quarter inch wide neodymium magnet slices in a radial pattern to produce a high amount of force for its relatively small size. The neo slices are enclosed in a computer modeled low carbon steel hull designed to eliminate magnet field stray. This design is useful for creating a highly efficient ultra light weight motor which is ideal for pro audio solutions. The TC4-Radial is the most efficient motor we make, with magnetic gap field density that surpasses virtually all other motors. These motors are capable of driving massive 15" and 18" cones, produce an incredibly dense magnetic field, and achieve a very high Bl product. The TC-Radial motor is strictly for 4" underhung voice coil designs.



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    Re: TC Sounds Motor's

    I understand your frustration lol...
    Definitely handy info here.

    Thanks phill



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    lol, very welcome! between you, ciaonzo, p628gts, resko1 and myself we should be able to educate the masses



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    Re: TC Sounds Motor's

    And of course, Kyle.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds Motor's

    nice write up man, glad to see someone put some solid info out on the motors



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    VVV look down one



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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    And of course, Kyle.
    If he'd quit telling people that low freq spl is due to subwoofer displacement alone I would consider him more of a resource

    Everything coming out of him info wise is written like an attempt to sell you on the product.. It's like, yeah man, we get it, TC is good stuff, everyone knows by now, and the new stuff is okay but caters to the generic market. original TC/AP stuff is superior, his employee status must not allow him to agree but with the f3's (in optimum enclosure) of the new stuff is only a shadow of what it once was. The fact that no parts are directly interchangeable with the old product really irks me too though. So, there is an obvious, copious amount of down-grades done to the current product line, Motors are streamlined to include only the bare necessities and no more copper, dropped a few landmark motor's from the line up (5200 4HP, TC3LM) and overall tsp shifts were in the favor of mass market agenda's. True TC fans wont enjoy the new stuff, but... true TC fans will stick it out and see whats next as well. Thilo is the man, and hopefully the future will hold some more standard setting designs, as for the current stuff, the LMS-r 15 seems to be the driver to run if you're looking for nice low-end and reasonable output while remaining flat enough for the testiest of audiophiles. Everything else has it's place just not in my collection.



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    thank you sir



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    so question. i received a motor and basket off a Soundsplinter rl-p 18. 3 3/4" slugs. i was told it was a tc9, was it a tc3hp instead???



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    Re: TC Sounds Motor's

    tc9/3HP hybrid more than likely. if the top-plate is 1/2" its a 9/3hp hybrid. 25-35mm and you're holding a 3HP. pretty sure on my first guess though.



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    thank you very much good sir



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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatestpenn View Post
    so question. i received a motor and basket off a Soundsplinter rl-p 18. 3 3/4" slugs. i was told it was a tc9, was it a tc3hp instead???
    Kyle says it's still a TC9, just uses an additional slug for keeping Q down. The consensus is that as long as it's a short top plate, it's a TC9, and if it's a tall top plate, it's a 3HP. The problem is, there's enough variations on both motors to confuse everyone.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Beat me to it, Phill.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds Motor's

    lol, taking a quick shot a an answer to catch you sleeping :P



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    its a short top plate



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