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    input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    hi, all. been snooping for a while, and i can't quite piece together what i'm looking for, so i thought i'd ask directly.

    i listen to EBM/industrial music mostly (think "techno"), and i'd like to add some bass to my setup. i am not looking to put the local "homies" to shame with it, but i want to get enough bass to really blast my stereo. loud enough to give me a headache, at least INSIDE the car. i'm going for SQ all the way, on a wicked-tight budget. i want to hear those deep dive-bomb basses, but want ultra-tight hits for the most part. you know, sharp and punchy.

    at first, i thought i wanted 2 10"s, but i read a bunch of stuff on here, and now i've flip-flopped. now i convinced myself to get a Kicker 12" CompVR, and a Profile CL600M. will this be enough? will the 12" be too rumbly and floppy? should i stick with the 2 10"s i originally planned on?

    last, but not least, the budget: i want to get everything for $250 (300 if i HAVE to!), so my wife doesn't murder me in my sleep. i'd rather not entertain any suggestions for a higher-priced setup; i just cannot do it. and i'm under the impression i don't need anything more.

    to reiterate: tight, but deep, clean bass, with amp (and wiring and box) for 250-300, in a '97 civic. no "redlight bass battles" with the cholos, but hard enough to **** off my passengers, for good.

    you all seem to be a very helpful bunch, and i'll take any advice i can get. thanks for any replies, gang!

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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    Ahh...... 12" EDK sounds about right...

    Or you could try a SE but the SQ won't be as great....


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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    Hey I'm not an expert, I'm only adding my 2cent scause I have an 00 civic. I'd go with the 10's over 12's for the music your listening to. I have 3 JL 10's in a sealed box. I'd probably go with a different brand (if I had, had a choice) but I'm very happy with my setup. Listening to other people's setups is the best advice I can give you.




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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    Get one 12, a 12k ported as mentioned would be what you are looking for i think. A profile CA 800 would power it very well assuming you get the single 4ohm voice coil. I just reread your post, and saw you are relaly after sq and punch bass and all. For that you should really use a sealed enclosure, but you will not **** off your passengers, and it is not going to give you a headache. On the other hand if you ported it and tuned to around 28hz, you would pound, and it would also sound very good.

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    So thats a little over your budget, but i dont think you will be happy with a single comp vr as far as sq goes.



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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    outstanding! thanks for the replies. i'm still kinda confused about the ported/sealed thing. sealed is "quiet" or softer than ported? if i make a ported box, and tune to 28hz, like you say, will i still obtain tight and loud bass?

    i guess i'll change my mind. i don't mind pissing off my neighbors, i just want the best (highest quality) bass i can obtain within my original budget (though what nosaj070 priced was not completely out of line). and loud.

    abe "sorry for being so wishy washy" m.




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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    When you go ported, you lose a little bit of the bass drum kinda kick you get from sealed. But you theoretically gain twice the output. Now it isn't going to be twice as loud, but it will be a whole lot louder. It probably doesn't necessarily have the potential to bug the neighbors too much. But chances are you will leave the car with a headache, and lousy hearing if its up pretty high for a while. The tuning frequency is the frequency that the box is most efficient at. Tuning low allows music to still hit low notes, and helps to keep a flat response curve. Tuning high, in the 40's is for competetion to try and get as loud as possible playing one note.



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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    wouldn't the ca600 be better than the 800? wattage-wise?

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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    no, 800 puts out 600 @ 4 ohms bridged, which is what it would be at, 600 puts out 450.



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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    You mite also want to take a look at the aidre shiva

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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    well, i ordered the e12K.14 yesterday, and the bastid is now on backorder! do you all think i should wait for it to come back in stock, or does anyone have suggestions for a comparable (but not more expensive) sub? i wish eD would've at least told me how long i could expect to wait before the e12ks become available again.

    thanks again for all the replies. i'm heading to that link now, avistar23.

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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    Shiva TTTTTT



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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    The shiva is pretty **** nice in the sq department (so i have been told) and im sure it would satisfy you.



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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    zane is actually selling one right now in the classifieds, i suggest you check it out, it'l save you about 50 bucks.



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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    it would appear that eD's stuff goes on backorder often. anyone know how long their wait times are? if it's more than a week (and i assume it is), i'd really rather choose something else. so shivas are good, what else? if i were to go with 2 10"s, what do you all recommend?


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    Re: input please: finally putting a sub in my '97 Civic...

    help pls... do you guys know where can I buy hydrolics for my Isuzu crosswind 2004 model. Please e-mail me at solomoninthemood@yahoo.com thank you so much




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