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    HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    I have 4 12s getting 2K watts rms and my front stage is 4 Walmart JVC coaxials running off 16 watts rms of head unit power. My sub sounds fine but my mids and highs don't sound very clear and start to distort long before my subs do. Anybody know why? Any suggestions? No money left for a front stage amp so that's not an option. If I can find a head unit making a little more power would that solve the problem?



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    Not an sq set up just want good sq speakers and tweets not interested in mids! And my sub is a fcking ia dp 18 with a memphis 4kw


    Originally Posted by x1le
    mids ARE speakers.

    A component set = pair of midwoofer's and a pair of tweeter's

    and nobody cares what your sub is.




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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    What kind of HU is it? Would it happen to have built in crossovers? If so they need turned on, another option would be to go to Parts Express and buy some inline crossovers.... if you can get the BASS outta the signal going to the speakers then they won't distort so soon.....


    something like this:http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=266-160

    or this one: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=266-464



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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by eharri3 View Post
    I have 4 12s getting 2K watts rms and my front stage is 4 Walmart JVC coaxials running off 16 watts rms of head unit power. My sub sounds fine but my mids and highs don't sound very clear and start to distort long before my subs do. Anybody know why? Any suggestions? No money left for a front stage amp so that's not an option. If I can find a head unit making a little more power would that solve the problem?
    2k vs 64 w/ walmart speakers and you wonder why it sounds bad?





    Quote Originally Posted by eharri3 View Post
    I have 4 12s getting 2K watts rms and my front stage is 4 Walmart JVC coaxials running off 16 watts rms of head unit power. My sub sounds fine but my mids and highs don't sound very clear and start to distort long before my subs do. Anybody know why? Any suggestions?

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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by nineball View Post
    2k vs 64 w/ walmart speakers and you wonder why it sounds bad?
    This.

    Try looking at the bottom line in your sig for reference.

    Should've thought about this before dropping all your money into the substage?



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    *Alpine CDM-9803 Head Unit <-- New Alpine HU, forgot model #.
    *Front Coaxials - Pioneer 6.5" 3-ways. No rears.
    *Speaker Amp - Hifonics TXI4408.
    *Infinity Perfect 10.1 Subwoofer.
    *IB Mounted to dear deck, sealed from cabin.
    *6 Gauge wiring, to amp. All 14 gauge wiring for speakers and 12 gauge to sub. Cheap Home Depot RCA's.

    HU - $80. Sub - $50. Coaxial's - $20. Wiring - $20. Amplifier - $90.

    For under $300, a complete system that sounds rather good for what it is.

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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

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    2k vs 64 w/ walmart speakers and you wonder why it sounds bad?
    you just got busted by the common sense POLICE



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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Plutoman View Post
    This.

    Try looking at the bottom line in your sig for reference.

    Should've thought about this before dropping all your money into the substage?


    So would better coaxials off a stronger head unit work? Right now I don't want to put the money into a front stage amp and would like to get the right sound without spending a butt load of money on components and more amps. Anybody wanna suggest anything that will get my front stage as loud as my substage without that much effort?



    Re: whats some good components?


    Quote:
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    Not an sq set up just want good sq speakers and tweets not interested in mids! And my sub is a fcking ia dp 18 with a memphis 4kw


    Originally Posted by x1le
    mids ARE speakers.

    A component set = pair of midwoofer's and a pair of tweeter's

    and nobody cares what your sub is.

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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    A front stage amp can be as cheap as the new HU you were talking about getting



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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by eharri3 View Post
    I have 4 12s getting 2K watts rms and my front stage is 4 Walmart JVC coaxials running off 16 watts rms of head unit power. My sub sounds fine but my mids and highs don't sound very clear and start to distort long before my subs do. Anybody know why? Any suggestions? No money left for a front stage amp so that's not an option. If I can find a head unit making a little more power would that solve the problem?
    u got cash for a new hu but not a small 4 channel amp



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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by headlesskoopa View Post
    u got cash for a new hu but not a small 4 channel amp
    he doesnt even need that, if you aernt worried about fading just get a 2 channel, you are not going to get more than 16w out of the little chip amp built into the deck, there is a crossfire amp in the classifieds that is $50, it will do 100x2 at 2ohms, more than enough power



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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by eharri3 View Post
    So would better coaxials off a stronger head unit work? Right now I don't want to put the money into a front stage amp and would like to get the right sound without spending a butt load of money on components and more amps. Anybody wanna suggest anything that will get my front stage as loud as my substage without that much effort?
    Hell no, a better HU will not work.

    I meant, look at your sig for reference to the stupidity of even asking this.

    You need an amplifier, and speakers to handle it. Otherwise it's not happening.



    ~/~Setup~/~
    *Alpine CDM-9803 Head Unit <-- New Alpine HU, forgot model #.
    *Front Coaxials - Pioneer 6.5" 3-ways. No rears.
    *Speaker Amp - Hifonics TXI4408.
    *Infinity Perfect 10.1 Subwoofer.
    *IB Mounted to dear deck, sealed from cabin.
    *6 Gauge wiring, to amp. All 14 gauge wiring for speakers and 12 gauge to sub. Cheap Home Depot RCA's.

    HU - $80. Sub - $50. Coaxial's - $20. Wiring - $20. Amplifier - $90.

    For under $300, a complete system that sounds rather good for what it is.

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    Re: HELP!!! Can't figure this out!!!

    I'm willing to be the entry level JVCs he has won't benefit all the greatly from an amp.

    Then again, NOTHING will compete with 4 12" subs. Heck, no single component set, think of the best you can imagine, can not even compete with 1 mediocre 12" sub running a commonly configured setup. It's simply physics. The only way any setup can compete is to step to a PA type of setup. However, the sizing isn't conducive for a car install. A 6.5" is a midrange, not a mid woofer. You'll be lucky to be functional below 200Hz with a PA oriented 6.5" driver. However, that's what's needed to compete with that many subs.



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