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    How much better will it sound?

    Hey everyone I added JBL GTO607c's up front and JBL GTO607's in the back amped with an alpine 4 chan. I like the speakers a lot they are very clear and I can crank them up. The thing they are lacking bass, they have barely any at all. My question is, if I add a 12" type r or a JL 12w3 to the trunk how much better will my setup sound? How did your systems sound before you added a sub? Thanks!

    Edit: is it normal to have such minimal bass with just 4 6.5" speakers?







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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    You can try lowering your HPF on the amp, but I wouldn't expect much bass out of those speakers. They will play great for mids/highs though, and a sub will make a HUGE diff in bass and over-all loudness.

    I take it you're buying local since you mentioned alpine/jl? LOTS of good internet companies with great products for less $$$.




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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    Quote Originally Posted by comp2007 View Post
    Hey everyone I added JBL GTO607c's up front and JBL GTO607's in the back amped with an alpine 4 chan. I like the speakers a lot they are very clear and I can crank them up. The thing they are lacking bass, they have barely any at all. My question is, if I add a 12" type r or a JL 12w3 to the trunk how much better will my setup sound? How did your systems sound before you added a sub? Thanks!
    A lot better. I think people usually add a sub first and then move on to speakers and stuff. I have a JL audio 10w3 and it doesn't slam, but it adds enough bass that you can definitely feel the beats and it adds a lot of low end. Also, I got the speaker, box, and wiring kit for like $115.




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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    ok great
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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    bump
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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    bump, I heard my friends setup with 4 6.5" type R's and type r 5x7's in the back and they had awesome bass. I just dont see my system sounding good right now, it sounds old school just mids and highs with no low end bass at all. Even If I add a sub will it make the sound full?




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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    A dedicated subwoofer really does a lot to bring the bottom octaves into music.



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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    Ok did I just get bad speakers or do all upgraded 6.5"s really not produce much bass without a sub?




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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    Some aftermarket 6.5"'s will produce more midbass than others. It also helps if they are externally amplified.



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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    You have to consider that even though you're using "upgraded" speakers, you're still using entry level co-axials in undeadened door locations, without much power (my assumption). You can't really expect much out of them.



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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    they are amped with an alpine 4 channel amp, they do get very loud just have very little midbass, once I get a sub do I just set the speakers bass setting to 0 and let the sub do all the low end work?
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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    Are the type R 6.5's that much better than my JBL's or is it his 5x7's making the difference?




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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    6.5" mids are not made to play sub/low fq

    unless you have some huge mids you wont get much lower end bass

    you will get alot of midbass

    i think alot of people assume that upgraded mids will magically add massive low end.

    You need large mids, alot of power to the mid and proper deadening.

    and please dont tell me pg rsd have midbass cuz they dont. I have heard them and was not impressed

    get a sub and you will notice a big differance




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    Re: How much better will it sound?

    awesome reply blaze, thanks a lot....I have a custom fibeglass box, a jl 12w3v3 and a Alpine MRP m-650 amp going in thursday, I will post results.




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