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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

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    Boo hoo, everyone is doing fine without sundown
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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punk0Rama View Post
    That has been known to happen, most definitely. A lot of shops are really bad for that up here in Canada and I know of a couple that have changed their tune on some brands recently. And yet, they continue to make the same assumptions about new companies.

    Some people's children.
    if you're talking about the sundown amp that apparently doesnt work well on a single battery and doesnt work well on a large 16 volt battery bank and obviously has some sort of spaceage gain knob that acts as a volume adjustment...

    then yea i agree with you its the best amp in the world. Lets all send money to rick at cca so we can be friends




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Actually, I wasn't talking about Sundown at all, but that fits the current mold.

    I recall 4, maybe 5 years ago when Resonant Engineering was a garbage flea market joke of a brand. They "didn't engineer" anything and just picked parts out of a catalogue.

    My, how opinions have changed. CCA has always been a joke for those types of situations.

    Is it fun being a keyboard warrior running everywhere to complain about Sundown? I assure you, it's gotten you nothing but respect! I laughed when people said to go to SPL competitions because it's "fun"; that's odd, because I couldn't imagine having any fun around most of you guys judging by the way you post on the internet, which is really quite sad.




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    I had the same experience here lately.. I went into a new shop and saw a 15in MX sitting upside down and asked if it was a XXX or MX and they magically said "you know of RE?" and i said yes I run two Re SX12's and they had an ****** in that very spot then they asked what i was powering with and I said a Memphis Mojo mc2000d.. and they said "its only 1100 watts rms at 1 ohms.. I disagreed then left...

    What was the name of this Local shop u entered? seeing that we are both in TN




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punk0Rama View Post
    Actually, I wasn't talking about Sundown at all, but that fits the current mold.

    I recall 4, maybe 5 years ago when Resonant Engineering was a garbage flea market joke of a brand. They "didn't engineer" anything and just picked parts out of a catalogue.

    My, how opinions have changed. CCA has always been a joke for those types of situations.

    Is it fun being a keyboard warrior running everywhere to complain about Sundown? I assure you, it's gotten you nothing but respect! I laughed when people said to go to SPL competitions because it's "fun"; that's odd, because I couldn't imagine having any fun around most of you guys judging by the way you post on the internet, which is really quite sad.



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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wagonized View Post
    if you're talking about the sundown amp that apparently doesnt work well on a single battery and doesnt work well on a large 16 volt battery bank and obviously has some sort of spaceage gain knob that acts as a volume adjustment...

    then yea i agree with you its the best amp in the world. Lets all send money to rick at cca so we can be friends
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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punk0Rama View Post
    Actually, I wasn't talking about Sundown at all, but that fits the current mold.

    I recall 4, maybe 5 years ago when Resonant Engineering was a garbage flea market joke of a brand. They "didn't engineer" anything and just picked parts out of a catalogue.

    My, how opinions have changed. CCA has always been a joke for those types of situations.

    Is it fun being a keyboard warrior running everywhere to complain about Sundown? I assure you, it's gotten you nothing but respect! I laughed when people said to go to SPL competitions because it's "fun"; that's odd, because I couldn't imagine having any fun around most of you guys judging by the way you post on the internet, which is really quite sad.
    The internet and real life are 2 completely different things btw.



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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Corey69 View Post
    The internet and real life are 2 completely different things btw.
    If you behave entirely different in real life, then you're even worse than I thought. That means you make a conscious effort to be an *** as soon as you pull up to the keyboard, or you lack the self-control to stop yourself from behaving as such. Again, not interested, thanks.




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punk0Rama View Post
    If you behave entirely different in real life, then you're even worse than I thought. That means you make a conscious effort to be an *** as soon as you pull up to the keyboard, or you lack the self-control to stop yourself from behaving as such. Again, not interested, thanks.
    Oh no as soon as I mention sundown it means im an *** and im bashing it. I could really care less about those amps.



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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Corey69 View Post
    Oh no as soon as I mention sundown it means im an *** and im bashing it. I could really care less about those amps.
    Actually, this would be being an ***...

    Quote Originally Posted by Corey69 View Post
    Boo hoo, everyone is doing fine without sundown
    And if you guys really care less, like you keep saying is the case, quit posting about it and bashing the product at every opportunity.




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    I assumed you were talking about that company since everyone seems to like bashing it.



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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Actually this picture sums up how I feel about your opinions




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punk0Rama View Post
    Actually, I wasn't talking about Sundown at all, but that fits the current mold.

    I recall 4, maybe 5 years ago when Resonant Engineering was a garbage flea market joke of a brand. They "didn't engineer" anything and just picked parts out of a catalogue.

    My, how opinions have changed. CCA has always been a joke for those types of situations.

    Is it fun being a keyboard warrior running everywhere to complain about Sundown? I assure you, it's gotten you nothing but respect! I laughed when people said to go to SPL competitions because it's "fun"; that's odd, because I couldn't imagine having any fun around most of you guys judging by the way you post on the internet, which is really quite sad.

    i dont quite remember RE every being considered a crap brand. I bought my HCs rougly 5 1/2 years ago when they were still a very up and coming company. Still, nobody called them crap..people were just very unsure of their quality.

    I like to think I do get a decent amount of respect regarding car audio from the people that actually know me. If you knew the real story between CCA and sundown, particularly Rick the owner of the site..you may see things differently.




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

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    i dont quite remember RE every being considered a crap brand. I bought my HCs rougly 5 1/2 years ago when they were still a very up and coming company. Still, nobody called them crap..people were just very unsure of their quality.
    I'd have to search a bit (and not even sure if I can find them since Rick took over), but basically every non-mainstream has been criticized in some form on CCA. I specifically remember a thread where Fi was a marketing company and SoundSplinter was as well, and yet somehow Eclipse was very legit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wagonized View Post
    I like to think I do get a decent amount of respect regarding car audio from the people that actually know me. If you knew the real story between CCA and sundown, particularly Rick the owner of the site..you may see things differently.
    I know everyone isn't happy with the Rick situation. I know a few people who were banned from that site shortly after he first took over and I, personally, think he's made the site even worse than it was.

    I'm sure you've earned a fair bit of respect and a lot of the guys posting on CCA have, but for some reason there is a big anti-Sundown movement going on. I'm not totally sure why Sundown was picked out of all the companies that could have been picked on, aside from the relation to Steve, and I definitely find that irritating. Everyone is so gung-ho to tear down Sundown, which is sad because Jacob is a nice guy who has worked very hard to have the success he has had. It's stuff like that just makes me question how fun it could possibly be to go to an SPL competition.




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    Re: went to a local audio shop today and saw....

    Quote Originally Posted by Punk0Rama View Post
    I'd have to search a bit (and not even sure if I can find them since Rick took over), but basically every non-mainstream has been criticized in some form on CCA. I specifically remember a thread where Fi was a marketing company and SoundSplinter was as well, and yet somehow Eclipse was very legit.


    I know everyone isn't happy with the Rick situation. I know a few people who were banned from that site shortly after he first took over and I, personally, think he's made the site even worse than it was.

    I'm sure you've earned a fair bit of respect and a lot of the guys posting on CCA have, but for some reason there is a big anti-Sundown movement going on. I'm not totally sure why Sundown was picked out of all the companies that could have been picked on, aside from the relation to Steve, and I definitely find that irritating. Everyone is so gung-ho to tear down Sundown, which is sad because Jacob is a nice guy who has worked very hard to have the success he has had. It's stuff like that just makes me question how fun it could possibly be to go to an SPL competition.

    at the same time its pretty easy for people to hear a cheap 1500 watt amp puts out much much more power than rated and believe it. People want to believe theyre getting a smokin deal. Just doesnt make a lot of sense that the sundown guys would come on there saying the amp wont work in a single batt system and there had to be something wrong with the 16 volt bank the batt was tested on after that.

    I suppose the "true test" will come when JordyO tests them. ALthough I can see something fishy going on with that already.




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