Closed Thread
Results 1 to 12 of 12

Reload Thread: Building Box for First Time

  1. #1
    diesel_kid's Avatar
    diesel_kid is offline Diesel Lover



    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Tillsonburg, ON
    Age
    26
    Posts
    88
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Building Box for First Time

    Hey there, flame me If this has been done, but I plan on building a custom box for my Image Dynamics IDMAX 12 v.3 D4 Sub and have a few questions. From what I have gathered the material to use is 3/4 MDF but here are my questions...

    1. Do angles of any of the sides matter when building a box?
    2. What should I seal the joints with for a perfect seal?
    3. Should I fill the box with anything such as long wool or along those lines?
    4. Should I line the inside of the box with any sound deadener?
    5. How do you tune your box and how do you know what to tune it to?
    6. Does the height compared to the width matter, such as a tall skinny box?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.







  2. #2
    vosschs's Avatar
    vosschs is offline Banned



    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    just east of STL
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,658
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    1. Do angles of any of the sides matter when building a box?
    2. What should I seal the joints with for a perfect seal?
    3. Should I fill the box with anything such as long wool or along those lines?
    4. Should I line the inside of the box with any sound deadener?
    5. How do you tune your box and how do you know what to tune it to?
    6. Does the height compared to the width matter, such as a
    use wood glue then screws for the joint, then caulk later, or silicone,
    you could put cotton in the box, but i dont think it matters,
    no sound deadner in the inside of the box,
    have others help on 5 and 6,




  3. #3
    xchaosx's Avatar
    xchaosx is offline CarAudio.com Elite



    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    pa
    Posts
    579
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    ok tuneing of the box matters if your porting it. tall and skinny is fine as long as you have enough internal volume (cuft). it sounds as tho you are building a truck box are you wanting to port it or have it sealed. sealed you don't have to worry about tuning but in a sealed box that's where the polyfil (pillow stuffing ) comes into play i think it's like .5 pounds per cuft and it makes the box sound bigger then what it is it will hit lower. tuneing of a ported box all depends on that you want out of it daily driver--db dragger. daily driver 30-32hz you wanna tune it low to be more musical spl 40's tuning to be loud hope this helps




  4. #4
    IgnoreMe's Avatar
    IgnoreMe is offline I love 2 girls 1 cup



    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    caraudio.com
    Age
    28
    Posts
    11,768
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_kid
    Hey there, flame me If this has been done, but I plan on building a custom box for my Image Dynamics IDMAX 12 v.3 D4 Sub and have a few questions. From what I have gathered the material to use is 3/4 MDF but here are my questions...

    1. Do angles of any of the sides matter when building a box?
    2. What should I seal the joints with for a perfect seal?
    3. Should I fill the box with anything such as long wool or along those lines?
    4. Should I line the inside of the box with any sound deadener?
    5. How do you tune your box and how do you know what to tune it to?
    6. Does the height compared to the width matter, such as a tall skinny box?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    1: sealed box: no . ported box: yes, because angles can affect how your port works
    2: use "Liquid Nails" to get a STRONG seal between the wood and also an air tight seam
    3: nah. just make the box the right size if you have the room
    4: nope
    5: check my sig, use the how to i made
    6: nope. as long as you can make the sub fit, you can build almost any size box



    llllllllllllllll Educate yourself and help stop the ignorance.
    llllllllllllllll DEA Judge Francis L Young says...
    llllllllllllllll Designing a Ported Box


    refs: hazardous0388, snoopdan, karleon, thelow, freezeman_7, imtjnotu, Gebrochen, astroladespl, billabongcr , mustbenu , thunder9500 , 91ser, djdilliodon (6 times), stupify, milenko515, Zeuslicious, Bmoorman05, WaTTsLOk187, too dope 1904, nate2587, rbiele126, denalilvr



    Don't Blame Me. I Voted for Ron Paul.

    BluePoint Air Ratchet for sale...click me bitch

  5. #5
    req's Avatar
    req
    req is offline am a mod.



    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Syracuse, NY
    Age
    29
    Posts
    15,426
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    21
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    Punctuation would help.

    what exactally are you trying to make your system do?

    ported = louder\low(er) quality
    sealed = quiet(er)\high quaity

    as long as you have the right sub (yours is fine) then you can go ported and still retain great quality. port your box (if you have room, they are usually large boxes) to 30hz or so. a few cubic feet of internal volume, say about 2 or 3. and some good port area will make a great sounding box.

    use wood glue\caulk\liquid nails to seal the seams, then screw ~1 1\4" drywall screws (PREDRILL THE HOLES) about 4" away from eachother on all seams.

    not too hard. goodluck. look for WINSID ALPHA @ www.linearteam.com for a program that will help design your port for you. its an invalulable resource.




  6. #6
    vosschs's Avatar
    vosschs is offline Banned



    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    just east of STL
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,658
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    go ported




  7. #7
    diesel_kid's Avatar
    diesel_kid is offline Diesel Lover

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Tillsonburg, ON
    Age
    26
    Posts
    88
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    I am going to have a sealed box as I have heard and looked at charts and that is what my sub works best at and is designed for. The reason I am asking about goofy angles and tall skinny and such is because It is a 1994 Reg. Cab. Dodge so space is tight for a 12 inch.
    As for the box, I think you guys have pretty much answered my questions, just fit the box to your sub and space, angles of sides and such doesnt matter, connect with 1 1/4" Screws through predrilled holes, use wood glue then seal with Silicone afterwards, and since it is a sealed box I do not need to tune it. But I am still sketchy as to should I fill the box with that stuffing or not? And also what type of joints should I connect the peices of wood with just butts, mitres, or what. Thanks guys hopefully I will get this thing built soon and post up some pictures.



    1994 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD
    Hummer H2 Rims & Tires
    Offroad Suspension with KING 2.5" Shocks
    Stacks
    Alpine CDA-9835 HU
    Xtant 403A (Not installed)
    Arc Audio Arc Series 12D4 (Not installed)

    Soon to come....

    Dayton Mids w/ Seas Tweeters

  8. #8
    Moe Lester's Avatar
    Moe Lester is offline 1/3 of TEAM PWNAGE



    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Age
    27
    Posts
    3,614
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    Id go with 1 5/8" screws, 1 1/4 really doesnt go very deep into the second sheet and can strip more easily when tightening them.

    you dont need any special joints on the wood, just cut and piece them together. The wood glue is strong enough that the joint becomes stronger than the wood itself.




  9. #9
    IgnoreMe's Avatar
    IgnoreMe is offline I love 2 girls 1 cup



    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    caraudio.com
    Age
    28
    Posts
    11,768
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Moe Lester
    Id go with 1 5/8" screws, 1 1/4 really doesnt go very deep into the second sheet and can strip more easily when tightening them.

    you dont need any special joints on the wood, just cut and piece them together. The wood glue is strong enough that the joint becomes stronger than the wood itself.
    yup. use 1 5/8" at least. works better. the stuffing is only needed if you dont have enough room to make a box to specs. so lets say you got a 2ft^3 box and you need 3ft^3 then you add the polyfil (stuffing). not sure how much, you have to ask someone else. if you have the box to specs though then you dont need it. also, since your sealed, yup you just make it whatever shape you want. and lastly, like moe said, no special joints needed, the liquid nails is strong than the wood. i found that out after tryin to rip apart an old box i made and needless to say the whole **** thing broke everywhere BUT the joints...impressed the hell outta me haha



    llllllllllllllll Educate yourself and help stop the ignorance.
    llllllllllllllll DEA Judge Francis L Young says...
    llllllllllllllll Designing a Ported Box


    refs: hazardous0388, snoopdan, karleon, thelow, freezeman_7, imtjnotu, Gebrochen, astroladespl, billabongcr , mustbenu , thunder9500 , 91ser, djdilliodon (6 times), stupify, milenko515, Zeuslicious, Bmoorman05, WaTTsLOk187, too dope 1904, nate2587, rbiele126, denalilvr



    Don't Blame Me. I Voted for Ron Paul.

    BluePoint Air Ratchet for sale...click me bitch

  10. #10
    Moe Lester's Avatar
    Moe Lester is offline 1/3 of TEAM PWNAGE



    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Age
    27
    Posts
    3,614
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    from what ive seen, liquid nails doesnt bond as well as wood glue does.




  11. #11
    xchaosx's Avatar
    xchaosx is offline CarAudio.com Elite



    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    pa
    Posts
    579
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    i used gorilla glue last time and i have to say that's some tough **** way stronger the liquid nails




  12. #12
    IgnoreMe's Avatar
    IgnoreMe is offline I love 2 girls 1 cup



    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    caraudio.com
    Age
    28
    Posts
    11,768
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Building Box for First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Moe Lester
    from what ive seen, liquid nails doesnt bond as well as wood glue does.
    hmm it did fine for me. i used the "projects" one. there is also "heavy duty" which supposedly is not a good thing to use on these projects since its bonds so fast and you need have it right the first time, no mistakes. never tried regular wood glue so i wouldnt know.



    llllllllllllllll Educate yourself and help stop the ignorance.
    llllllllllllllll DEA Judge Francis L Young says...
    llllllllllllllll Designing a Ported Box


    refs: hazardous0388, snoopdan, karleon, thelow, freezeman_7, imtjnotu, Gebrochen, astroladespl, billabongcr , mustbenu , thunder9500 , 91ser, djdilliodon (6 times), stupify, milenko515, Zeuslicious, Bmoorman05, WaTTsLOk187, too dope 1904, nate2587, rbiele126, denalilvr



    Don't Blame Me. I Voted for Ron Paul.

    BluePoint Air Ratchet for sale...click me bitch

Closed Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Box Volume.
    By BigBoomer in forum Enclosure Design & Construction Help
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 02-24-2003, 01:37 AM
  2. Help Building a ported box
    By bud in forum Subwoofers
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-08-2002, 11:36 AM
  3. Question Regarding Box Building for RF Punch HE
    By chinsk in forum Subwoofers
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-15-2002, 05:11 AM
  4. building a box for 2 12's
    By Black in forum Subwoofers
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-11-2002, 02:33 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may post attachments
  • You may edit your posts

1e2 Forum