Closed Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 25

Reload Thread: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Hey guys, sorry I have to ask this as a new thread, but I couldn't figure it out through searching. I bought a special RE sub about 2 months ago and have had it sitting in my room waiting for my new car. It is an SX with an SE coil in it. It didn't come with any parameters or power rating information, but the guy that sold me it said that it would take about 1,000 watts, so I'm planning on buying a Hifonics 1500 today. The car is a 95' talon tsi, so it has a good deal of hatch space. i would like some help figuring out the port size I'll need for the box. I know that I would like a ported enclosure, but would like to keep the tuning pretty low so that I get the deeeeep bass that carries forever. I was told at the stereo store that a 2 foot box tuned to 34hz would be awesome, but I think I want a bigger box, somewhere around 2.5-3 cubes and tuning closer to 28-29hz. I would be able to figure this out myself on WinISD, but since I have no idea on the specs, I can't put them into the program. Would it work to put in the specs for the SX and then make the port about the same as it would be for that sub, or does replacing the voice coil affect the tuning quite a bit? If it is possible, could you let me know the specs of the SX so I can go from there, otherwise, please help me figure out what the port size will need to be for this sub. Also, if anyone has any other suggestions, let me know. Thanks.







  2. #2
    delvryboy's Avatar
    delvryboy is offline Save the Savage!



    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    chicago
    Age
    40
    Posts
    5,092
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    8
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    whats the reason for having an sx w/ a se coil? just curious



    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest Gump View Post
    I heard he's taking pilot lessons so he can fly airforce 1 into the pentagon
    Team PhatHertZ
    Team Kicker
    Team Powermaster



    2005 MECA SR2 World Record Holder
    2005 MMOM/2006 MECA SPL Spirit Award
    '03/'04/'05/'06/'07 MECA State Champion/Record Holder/World Finals Top 5


    Opti 200.2 + SX18 = 150+db
    Refs: Polecat, TeamPSI, TheLow, Tommyk90, TypeRbass, skitzafit, skmfkr, steinkea, slapmaster, Kenny Pollock, iagrdshaka, billabongcr, rtillaree, R-sosa, ngsm13, 15nissen, casper97ta, tuck05, Safe_Cracker, pioneerpimp, PurposeSoap, Basic1906, Bender-Offender, StateProp486, Loud01Blazer, civicman07, jco1385, bur1196, clbolt, gymfreak101, jesuspunk25
    Heatware = delvryboy

  3. #3
    Moe Lester's Avatar
    Moe Lester is offline 1/3 of TEAM PWNAGE



    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Age
    27
    Posts
    3,614
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    10
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    what size sub is it? im guessing a 12?




  4. #4
    FullThrottle7's Avatar
    FullThrottle7 is offline Member

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Yeah, its a 12, sorry bout that, I spaced. And as for the point of the SX with an SE coil, I really don't know. When he explained it, I thought he was making an SE with SX power handling, so it would be SQ, but much louder than a regular SE. It turned out it was an SX motor with an SE coil. I really don't know the specifics, but the reason was because an SX was about $40 dollars more than my dad would spend, and the SE was too little power (couldn't get two of them), so I ended up getting this. I just looked at WinISD, however and it looks like the tuning really is more dependent on the box. I experimented with the JL W7, JL W6, and MTX thunder 8000, which are supposedly about the same performance level as my sub. After hearing a W7 in person at Best Buy, I sure hope this is true, cause ****! That thing was LOUD! Anyways, I found out that I have 4.25 cubes to work with - 34" wide, 18" deep, and 12" high. Do you think 4.25 is too big a box for this sub and that power? it would be about 3.8 after sub and port displacement, right?




  5. #5
    DBfan187's Avatar
    DBfan187 is offline Supa's mom was here!



    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Poolside with Supa's mom.
    Posts
    46,452
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    12
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    11 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Sure it's not an seXXX?

    JL, let alone a W7 at BB? WTF? When did they start selling JL?




  6. #6
    InhumanAcura's Avatar
    InhumanAcura is offline 1/3ofTEAM PwNAGE..*****es



    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    8,639
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    43 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Cant go wrong with 2.5^3's and 35sq" of port for a 12".




  7. #7
    FullThrottle7's Avatar
    FullThrottle7 is offline Member

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    100% positive its an SX with an SE coil. And you are right, it wasn't best buy now that I think of it, it was Good Guys.




  8. #8
    delvryboy's Avatar
    delvryboy is offline Save the Savage!



    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    chicago
    Age
    40
    Posts
    5,092
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    8
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    sounds odd, if it has an SE coil, the power handling is reduced, not increased. is it a '04 model, polished bottom plate?



    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest Gump View Post
    I heard he's taking pilot lessons so he can fly airforce 1 into the pentagon
    Team PhatHertZ
    Team Kicker
    Team Powermaster



    2005 MECA SR2 World Record Holder
    2005 MMOM/2006 MECA SPL Spirit Award
    '03/'04/'05/'06/'07 MECA State Champion/Record Holder/World Finals Top 5


    Opti 200.2 + SX18 = 150+db
    Refs: Polecat, TeamPSI, TheLow, Tommyk90, TypeRbass, skitzafit, skmfkr, steinkea, slapmaster, Kenny Pollock, iagrdshaka, billabongcr, rtillaree, R-sosa, ngsm13, 15nissen, casper97ta, tuck05, Safe_Cracker, pioneerpimp, PurposeSoap, Basic1906, Bender-Offender, StateProp486, Loud01Blazer, civicman07, jco1385, bur1196, clbolt, gymfreak101, jesuspunk25
    Heatware = delvryboy

  9. #9
    FullThrottle7's Avatar
    FullThrottle7 is offline Member

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Only 2.5 cubes??? Will that still produce about the most volume this sub will put out? I thought a sub like this could use a big *** box like 4 cubes??? I really want this bass to be able to carry...




  10. #10
    FullThrottle7's Avatar
    FullThrottle7 is offline Member

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Yeah, its 2004 and you're right again, it does decrease power from the SX. What I wanted was more power than the SE, so taking power away from the SX is in essence the same thing...




  11. #11
    delvryboy's Avatar
    delvryboy is offline Save the Savage!



    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    chicago
    Age
    40
    Posts
    5,092
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    8
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by FullThrottle7
    Yeah, its 2004 and you're right again, it does decrease power from the SX. What I wanted was more power than the SE, so taking power away from the SX is in essence the same thing...
    well, if it has a SE coil, the thermal rating will be the same as the SE



    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest Gump View Post
    I heard he's taking pilot lessons so he can fly airforce 1 into the pentagon
    Team PhatHertZ
    Team Kicker
    Team Powermaster



    2005 MECA SR2 World Record Holder
    2005 MMOM/2006 MECA SPL Spirit Award
    '03/'04/'05/'06/'07 MECA State Champion/Record Holder/World Finals Top 5


    Opti 200.2 + SX18 = 150+db
    Refs: Polecat, TeamPSI, TheLow, Tommyk90, TypeRbass, skitzafit, skmfkr, steinkea, slapmaster, Kenny Pollock, iagrdshaka, billabongcr, rtillaree, R-sosa, ngsm13, 15nissen, casper97ta, tuck05, Safe_Cracker, pioneerpimp, PurposeSoap, Basic1906, Bender-Offender, StateProp486, Loud01Blazer, civicman07, jco1385, bur1196, clbolt, gymfreak101, jesuspunk25
    Heatware = delvryboy

  12. #12
    InhumanAcura's Avatar
    InhumanAcura is offline 1/3ofTEAM PwNAGE..*****es



    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    8,639
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    43 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by FullThrottle7
    Only 2.5 cubes??? Will that still produce about the most volume this sub will put out? I thought a sub like this could use a big *** box like 4 cubes??? I really want this bass to be able to carry...
    That depends on the spider configuration, do you know it?
    Like I said you cant go wrong with 2.5^3's, account for port and driver displacement and use 2.5 of free-firing space for it.




  13. #13
    FullThrottle7's Avatar
    FullThrottle7 is offline Member

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Hmm... Thats not good. All I know is that the guy knows his stuff, is the local RE dealer, and assured me that it could take 1000 watts rms... I hope to god he was right, because I am for sure sending it that much. And what do you think about the box size? I can do any size up to 4 cubes, and would like whatever is going to create the loudest and deepest bass.




  14. #14
    FullThrottle7's Avatar
    FullThrottle7 is offline Member

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Auburn, WA
    Posts
    144
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    I don't know what you mean by spider configuration, but it is a thin, black, silky material that you can kind of see through. It only has one layer.




  15. #15
    delvryboy's Avatar
    delvryboy is offline Save the Savage!



    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    chicago
    Age
    40
    Posts
    5,092
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    8
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quoted
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Box for SE/SX Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by FullThrottle7
    I don't know what you mean by spider configuration, but it is a thin, black, silky material that you can kind of see through. It only has one layer.
    maybe youcan post the dealer you purchased it from and David can give some info on this particular driver since he more than likely built it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Forrest Gump View Post
    I heard he's taking pilot lessons so he can fly airforce 1 into the pentagon
    Team PhatHertZ
    Team Kicker
    Team Powermaster



    2005 MECA SR2 World Record Holder
    2005 MMOM/2006 MECA SPL Spirit Award
    '03/'04/'05/'06/'07 MECA State Champion/Record Holder/World Finals Top 5


    Opti 200.2 + SX18 = 150+db
    Refs: Polecat, TeamPSI, TheLow, Tommyk90, TypeRbass, skitzafit, skmfkr, steinkea, slapmaster, Kenny Pollock, iagrdshaka, billabongcr, rtillaree, R-sosa, ngsm13, 15nissen, casper97ta, tuck05, Safe_Cracker, pioneerpimp, PurposeSoap, Basic1906, Bender-Offender, StateProp486, Loud01Blazer, civicman07, jco1385, bur1196, clbolt, gymfreak101, jesuspunk25
    Heatware = delvryboy

Closed Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Box Volume.
    By BigBoomer in forum Enclosure Design & Construction Help
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 02-24-2003, 01:37 AM
  2. Box for 12 inch 8000 MTX
    By Clarion_Guy in forum Enclosure Design & Construction Help
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-01-2003, 03:54 AM
  3. ATTN: Jmac!
    By MUGEN! in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-31-2002, 04:42 AM
  4. Built ported box, but have problems/questions...
    By F150Matt in forum Subwoofers
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 08-11-2002, 09:28 PM

User Tag List

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may post attachments
  • You may edit your posts
1e2 Forum