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    Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Just wondering what are the benefits of a t line enclosure over a ported enclosure.

    I understand that T-lines are absolutely Massive boxes but do they increase output and do they have a flat freq response. Also how are they for daily use and musically.







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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Also are there any programs out there where I can model what each kind of an enclosure will do. Kind of like what pete on his hexi bass channel is talking about. he is probably making things seem way more complicated than what they really are but is there a program out there like that?




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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    They have a large wide bandwidth. They are SQ boxes, they can get louder then a poorly designed ported box but won't get louder then a properly built ported enclosure.



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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    hmm I know it depends on the sub. But even for efficiency. Like I was hoping to save some money by only running 1 sub I was looking into a fi ssd 12. Now one of those in a properly built T line vs one in a properly built Ported enclosure. The t line would give me a flatter response and a better bandwith while the Ported would give me a louder response? am I summing that up right?




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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Pretty much, cabin has a lot to do with it, but as a generalization yes.



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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Now I will have to add before some one else says it;
    A tline may sound louder to the ear as it will be louder over a larger area, while the ported enclosure will be more peaky.
    If you want to design tlines and horns you need to download hornresp (or other similar) but get ready to read up on the instructions. It is about as user friendly as building your own rocket.



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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Quote Originally Posted by wenn_du_weinst View Post
    Now I will have to add before some one else says it;
    A tline may sound louder to the ear as it will be louder over a larger area, while the ported enclosure will be more peaky.
    If you want to design tlines and horns you need to download hornresp (or other similar) but get ready to read up on the instructions. It is about as user friendly as building your own rocket.
    that is always re assuring to hear Ill have to take a look at it tonight.. Now I know I have asked you this before as a response to one of your threads, but what program do you use for modeling different sub woofers and seeing the peek and such on a graph. Not to nut hug bute pete or hexi bass on youtube how does he go about determining which enclosure would give the most desired output. or what program is he using




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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Quote Originally Posted by wenn_du_weinst View Post
    They have a large wide bandwidth. They are SQ boxes, they can get louder then a poorly designed ported box but won't get louder then a properly built ported enclosure.
    This is very true if you are limited on certain factors, such as space. Do not think that "tline" is above a conventional design, just because it uses different design paths. The design type you use will be based on the vehicle and you, not the other way around. But as far as the response curve flattness is concerned, that is driver specific and some subs may work better in conventional ported designs for that reason...given those mentioned limitations exist again. But generally, due to the way the tline is figured (properly), it can be one of the most powerful design styles available. There are many different types of tlines though, and then it would be figuring which kind of tline will be the best fit, not just a tline in general. The option to control the response with certain physical changes within the design style is the main plus from that of a conventional BR design.

    BUT, the main difference is not the phsyics, but the acoustics (and not referring to efficiency, as mentioned, a proper conventional BR can be just as efficient). I am referring to the output type: Compression or intensity. It can get detailed, but he differences can be the defining factor in transient response for musicality over SPL and vice versa. In a tline (of all forms) you tend to have more options to use for designing.





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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    hy can i get some help for a t line box for a civic coupe 95 on a alpine r10 4+4
    please help me




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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    my (2) 6.5" tang bands get louder on 100 watts a piece than my friends (2) 12" almani subs on "1700 wattz maxxx"




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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Quote Originally Posted by itsblown View Post
    that is always re assuring to hear Ill have to take a look at it tonight.. Now I know I have asked you this before as a response to one of your threads, but what program do you use for modeling different sub woofers and seeing the peek and such on a graph. Not to nut hug bute pete or hexi bass on youtube how does he go about determining which enclosure would give the most desired output. or what program is he using
    I use a mixture of different things most is based on what I know about my own car though. PWK built his own program around an algorithm he wrote a while ago.



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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    My Trubass 8" gets louder off my xtant(220rms or so) than my 10" Massive CW10 did off a kicker ZX400.1. The trubass is in a tline, the massive was in a properly ported box.



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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Quote Originally Posted by ace_800 View Post
    My Trubass 8" gets louder off my xtant(220rms or so) than my 10" Massive CW10 did off a kicker ZX400.1. The trubass is in a tline, the massive was in a properly ported box.
    no it wasn't.



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    Yeah it was, specs were from massive. Kind of hard to mess up something that is roughly 1.2^3 before displacement with an aeroport. Pretty basic.



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    Re: Benefits of a T-line Enclsosure

    Quote Originally Posted by ace_800 View Post
    Yeah it was, specs were from massive. Kind of hard to mess up something that is roughly 1.2^3 before displacement with an aeroport. Pretty basic.
    That right there proves my point. There is now way a ''one size fits all'' design from the manufacture is going to be optimal in your car. Meaning you didn't have the best box you could get for the 10''



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