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    my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    OK,
    So I built the ported box I wanted to with a great result at the tuning frequency of around 34Hz
    I think I'll keep it like this for a while but I already notice the peak in audible volume around tuning and I'm not sure if I like it.

    I think I want to acheive a better low end and don't mind if I loose dB, I just want low and smoother curve

    So here's the question, do the curves below look realistic if I was to turn the ported enclosure into a sealed one?

    I know the volume of 1.1 cu ft net was ideal for the ported box, but when that goes up to 1.34 cu ft (ading the slot port vol) if I just seal the end up with a plate, seems large, especially as the recomendation for sealed is 0.28 cu ft per sub.
    What will the it do to the subs going to over double the sealed volume?
    is it like no air spring, like when a ported box is below it's tune?





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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    When you say 1.34, do you mean net (minus woofer and port displacement) or gross?

    Even if it's net, I think 2 e8's will be fine on that tune in 1.34 vs 1.1 cubes.
    If your talking sealed on 1.34, yes it's too much and will lower the power handling.
    Unlike a ported box below it's tune, sealed and to big in this case should sound okay,
    just easy to bottom out with power. Half rated is a good starting point.




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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Yes I'm talking about 1.1 cu ft net after port and woofer in the ported set up, that goes up to 1.34 if I was to seal up the end and gain back the slot port volume, so the sealed box would be 1.34.

    Basically I'm trying to gauge if it is worth trying the 'block off the port' idea to create the 1.34 cu ft sealed box to tell if I get a flatter curve and more like the sound I want.

    Am I effectively going infinite baffle with this idea?



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    AP1040 bridged driving them.
    2 Sundown E8's in 1.1cu ft tuned to 30Hz.
    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    should hit lows amazing, however power handling will be decreased. I ran 2 crystal cmp 8's in a box that size and had no problems




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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Quote Originally Posted by loud-n-low View Post
    should hit lows amazing, however power handling will be decreased. I ran 2 crystal cmp 8's in a box that size and had no problems
    I think I'm way under power with them anyway, I am running 2 channels of my 4 ch amp bridged into 1 and it does 225rms at 4Ohm.
    With the subs wired to give an 8 Ohm load (don't think the amp is 2 ohm bridged stable) I can only be putting 120 in there.

    there's another fella on here who is running over 1Kwrms to a pair in a ported box and he hasn't fried them yet...



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    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Think I'll make a gasket and a plate tonight and try it.

    I've no equipment to measure though so It's just my ear and compare to the ported set up.



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    2 Sundown E8's in 1.1cu ft tuned to 30Hz.
    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex JB View Post
    I think I'm way under power with them anyway, I am running 2 channels of my 4 ch amp bridged into 1 and it does 225rms at 4Ohm.
    With the subs wired to give an 8 Ohm load (don't think the amp is 2 ohm bridged stable) I can only be putting 120 in there.

    there's another fella on here who is running over 1Kwrms to a pair in a ported box and he hasn't fried them yet...
    Sounds like that power should work fine to me.




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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    let us know how it sounds




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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    You could always seal it up and shrink wrap a Styrofoam block to take up some air space if you are concerned about the box being too big. If you don't have access to a crafts/hobby store, you could also use that Styrofoam insulation from Lowes/Home Depot to take up some air space.



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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    why not seal it inside the box where the port ends?




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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Thanks for both those suggestions, I think it would bw easiest to take up some volume with the styrafoam.
    The folded port is at the RHS like this, so adding a plate inside where the port ends would also work.



    I just dis this last night to the end with the port.



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    2 Sundown E8's in 1.1cu ft tuned to 30Hz.
    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Ok, so I like the low cpability of the sealed version but normal 35-60Hz stuff obviously suffered with the curve being so shallow.

    I'm torn now

    Do I...
    A) Stick witht he smooth response of the large sealed enclosure and risk damage if I increase the power to it ?

    B) Maybe add some blocks to remove a little volume to get some airspring back?

    C)Go back to ported and rip out the folded port to gain box volume and add an external tube port (there's a space for it behind the box, under the seat backs)?




    JL 6.5's in the front doors
    AP1040 bridged driving them.
    2 Sundown E8's in 1.1cu ft tuned to 30Hz.
    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    OK, so I have another related question!

    If I was to seal the folded port exit (like I have done) and cut a hole in the box near the middle, so the hole goes into the large airspace, and take 4" tubing out of the box and cut to length for the freq I want... would the volume of the old slotted port just act as normal box volume now?
    I know it's a restricted size but because there's not ait flowing through this space anymore it should just now be box volume right?



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    2 Sundown E8's in 1.1cu ft tuned to 30Hz.
    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Last question for today I promise...

    box end of a port as shown a bad idea?
    the port itself would be external in the direction of the arrow.

    only oyher option would be port hole in the box at the arrow tip and the port opening would be where the oval is right by the subs.




    JL 6.5's in the front doors
    AP1040 bridged driving them.
    2 Sundown E8's in 1.1cu ft tuned to 30Hz.
    700rms @ 2Ohm Cadence... let's see what the the E8's can take

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    Re: my 2 E8's sealed vs ported...

    Stupid question but who makes the e8? ive heard alot about them but i always get home audio when i google it. thanks.




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