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    couple of ?'s. what brand of round over bit do you use? i bought one and the edge gouges into the wood. my router has a 1/2" shank. i think i have an adapter to make it 1/4 inch though.

    in a slot port. what bit can i use to round off that transition between the baffle and the inside port wall? do i do a 1/4 round edge on the port wall and the baffle?

    my table saw is a piece of junk and never does 45 degree corners right. so i have to butt them together, meaning i'll have to do a little finish work on the joints. i was thinking that maybe a roll on primer would do a little better job covering up joints and patch work. anyone use roll on? a little more sanding maybe. i can deal with an extra 15 minutes of sanding to get a blemish free surface.

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    Re: box aesthetics

    I use a 3/8" roundover. Gouging usually means the blade is dull.

    If you want the joints perfectly smooth to paint then use bondo first, sand that smooth, then spray on several coats of primer. The end grain will **** up a LOT of paint, but you can make it look nice if you take your time.




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    Re: box aesthetics

    Use a flush bit to make the edges...flush.



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    Re: box aesthetics

    i use porter cable or bosch router bits and like mlstrass i use a 3/8 roundover. Just route the whole port opening not just the baffle edge



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    if u need a box...I'l taked 3 years of shop class so i know what im doing.

    after i explained to him there's more to a proper box than boards and glue and he should practice before trying to sell boxes to others

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    yes personaly if it was some one elce that just starting making boxes but i'v taken shop for 3 years now...Making a lil box is nothing i don't need to pratice on a box to get it right i learned alot of stuff from 1 box and i can fix that in my next box
    after i told him that customers would care about the looks of the box

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    if u want some thing that looks pretty why don't u find a black guy with a big d*ck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanM923 View Post
    Use a flush bit to make the edges...flush.
    lol. i don't have a problem with the edges being flush. it doesn't matter how flush they are, you still have to finish the edge.






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    Quote Originally Posted by kcdc30 View Post
    lol. i don't have a problem with the edges being flush. it doesn't matter how flush they are, you still have to finish the edge.
    not true...only if you want to finish them. If everything is flush then why do anything else? Especially when carpeting



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    if u need a box...I'l taked 3 years of shop class so i know what im doing.

    after i explained to him there's more to a proper box than boards and glue and he should practice before trying to sell boxes to others

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    yes personaly if it was some one elce that just starting making boxes but i'v taken shop for 3 years now...Making a lil box is nothing i don't need to pratice on a box to get it right i learned alot of stuff from 1 box and i can fix that in my next box
    after i told him that customers would care about the looks of the box

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    if u want some thing that looks pretty why don't u find a black guy with a big d*ck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesninja View Post
    i use porter cable or bosch router bits and like mlstrass i use a 3/8 roundover. Just route the whole port opening not just the baffle edge
    ahh. that makes sense. i've been using aero's. now that i picture it in my head, you are right. do the whole inside square






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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesninja View Post
    not true...only if you want to finish them. If everything is flush then why do anything else? Especially when carpeting
    but i'm not carpeting. i'm painting. a very glossy paint. every little blemish will show. it's kinda the point of this thread.






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    Quote Originally Posted by kcdc30 View Post
    but i'm not carpeting. i'm painting. a very glossy paint. every little blemish will show. it's kinda the point of this thread.
    well why didn't you say so then? you definately want to get a perfect surface then. Also, if you hit any screws with your roundover bit, check it for nicks in the cutting edge.



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    if u need a box...I'l taked 3 years of shop class so i know what im doing.

    after i explained to him there's more to a proper box than boards and glue and he should practice before trying to sell boxes to others

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    yes personaly if it was some one elce that just starting making boxes but i'v taken shop for 3 years now...Making a lil box is nothing i don't need to pratice on a box to get it right i learned alot of stuff from 1 box and i can fix that in my next box
    after i told him that customers would care about the looks of the box

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    if u want some thing that looks pretty why don't u find a black guy with a big d*ck.

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    Re: box aesthetics

    And i never use any screws in a box that i end up painting. You could potentially put a bulge in the panel when you drive the screw in.



    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    if u need a box...I'l taked 3 years of shop class so i know what im doing.

    after i explained to him there's more to a proper box than boards and glue and he should practice before trying to sell boxes to others

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    yes personaly if it was some one elce that just starting making boxes but i'v taken shop for 3 years now...Making a lil box is nothing i don't need to pratice on a box to get it right i learned alot of stuff from 1 box and i can fix that in my next box
    after i told him that customers would care about the looks of the box

    Quote Originally Posted by chase007 View Post
    if u want some thing that looks pretty why don't u find a black guy with a big d*ck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesninja View Post
    well why didn't you say so then? you definately want to get a perfect surface then. Also, if you hit any screws with your roundover bit, check it for nicks in the cutting edge.
    i don't use screws. i use clamps. i think the bit is just cheap. i saw a 20$ bit and a 9$ bit next to each other and got the 9$ one. now i'm gonna end up spending 29$ for a bit i've been using taping mud, which is drywall mud or spackling with a little extra glue in it. this application is in a friends suv and will be prone to getting banged up. i thought the bondo was a good idea that another poster proposed. def. stronger than drywall mud.






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    Quote Originally Posted by kcdc30 View Post
    couple of ?'s. what brand of round over bit do you use? i bought one and the edge gouges into the wood. my router has a 1/2" shank. i think i have an adapter to make it 1/4 inch though.

    in a slot port. what bit can i use to round off that transition between the baffle and the inside port wall? do i do a 1/4 round edge on the port wall and the baffle?

    my table saw is a piece of junk and never does 45 degree corners right. so i have to butt them together, meaning i'll have to do a little finish work on the joints. i was thinking that maybe a roll on primer would do a little better job covering up joints and patch work. anyone use roll on? a little more sanding maybe. i can deal with an extra 15 minutes of sanding to get a blemish free surface.

    thanks.
    A few tricks I use.

    Sand all corners and edges with 80 grit and a hand block
    use USC Duraglass to finish all the seams, including the inner port walls
    Also use the Duraglass to fill in all screw holes
    Use a catylized primer, it will soak into the MDF and harden it when cured
    Hand block the primer inside and out, blow out the inside and use a tack cloth to pick up any left over dust.
    I recommend using an automotive paint, and finishing with a ready to shoot clear coat. If you take the time to do it as described your box will look like a finished countertop and will last a long time.



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