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    I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Sketchup does NOT design boxes, nor has it ever, nor will it ever. I don't care if it looks cool or whatever else you might think when using it: you're not designing an enclosure. Sketchup is a very useful, but completely unnecessary aid to enclosure design. It's used to visualize and nothing more. If you don't already have an enclosure design before making it into 3D, stop, pick up a book and learn what you're doing so you don't keep flooding the forum with "problems with my box, does this design look better" because you didn't actually design anything.

    That's all, hopefully someone will realize that their enclosure was tuned to ~80hz not because sketchup wasn't good, but because they had no clue what they were doing.








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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by PV Audio View Post
    Sketchup does NOT design boxes, nor has it ever, nor will it ever. I don't care if it looks cool or whatever else you might think when using it: you're not designing an enclosure. Sketchup is a very useful, but completely unnecessary aid to enclosure design. It's used to visualize and nothing more. If you don't already have an enclosure design before making it into 3D, stop, pick up a book and learn what you're doing so you don't keep flooding the forum with "problems with my box, does this design look better" because you didn't actually design anything.

    That's all, hopefully someone will realize that their enclosure was tuned to ~80hz not because sketchup wasn't good, but because they had no clue what they were doing.

    I would like a link to said thread(s) because I missed them and need a good laugh



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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Sketchup *****. I downloaded it for something to do one day. I went to install and it locked up, then my norton antvi-virus flipped out and my windows said critical error and shut-down. It wouldnt boot up so i went into safe-mode and did a restore. Im lucky that the restore for vista ACTUALLY worked, and im good to go again.



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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeKing View Post
    Sketchup *****. I downloaded it for something to do one day. I went to install and it locked up, then my norton antvi-virus flipped out and my windows said critical error and shut-down. It wouldnt boot up so i went into safe-mode and did a restore. Im lucky that the restore for vista ACTUALLY worked, and im good to go again.
    that is not a sketch-up problem....that is a vista/norton problem...


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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by dman4486 View Post
    I would like a link to said thread(s) because I missed them and need a good laugh
    They're ****ing everywhere. For example, the thread below this one called something "anyone see problems with this box". Dude drew some lines in sketchup then asked if it was legit.




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeKing View Post
    Sketchup *****. I downloaded it for something to do one day. I went to install and it locked up, then my norton antvi-virus flipped out and my windows said critical error and shut-down. It wouldnt boot up so i went into safe-mode and did a restore. Im lucky that the restore for vista ACTUALLY worked, and im good to go again.
    sounds like your comp *****




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeKing View Post
    Sketchup *****. I downloaded it for something to do one day. I went to install and it locked up, then my norton antvi-virus flipped out and my windows said critical error and shut-down. It wouldnt boot up so i went into safe-mode and did a restore. Im lucky that the restore for vista ACTUALLY worked, and im good to go again.
    No, that's a norton problem. I've owned every make of sketchup since beta 4, and run vista on 6 pro right now and have zero problems.




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    oh and i use sketchup to design my boxes.

    what now!

    but really, once i figure out what i want i do draw it up on sketchup. always easier for me to make sure i have all the right measurements when i have a virtual model of what im actually putting together..

    edit: oh and i dont just draw lines either i do the whole panel of wood and everything lol. makes it easier to get measurements without ****ing them up.




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by hoxie08 View Post
    oh and i use sketchup to design my boxes.

    what now!

    but really, once i figure out what i want i do draw it up on sketchup. always easier for me to make sure i have all the right measurements when i have a virtual model of what im actually putting together..
    Drawing lines and eyeballing dimensions != to making a design.

    To all alleged sketchup designers, if you can't design a box without just using a pencil and paper, sketchup isn't going to help you. Same goes for enclosure design programs: you must learn what the program is doing for it to benefit you the most.




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    I don't claim to know everything nor a lot about enclosure design, as people here like Ion and JBL are far more skilled, BUT, I am fairly positive that most designers here (like myself) didn't even know wtf sketchup was when starting.




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by PV Audio View Post
    I don't claim to know everything nor a lot about enclosure design, as people here like Ion and JBL are far more skilled, BUT, I am fairly positive that most designers here (like myself) didn't even know wtf sketchup was when starting.
    I used sketch-up to model my first design....then used that to make a cut sheet


    then my computer crashed and I lost the original file



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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by dman4486 View Post
    I used sketch-up to model my first design....then used that to make a cut sheet


    then my computer crashed and I lost the original file
    FAIL!




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by PV Audio View Post
    FAIL!
    I spent forever working on that ****, then when I went to print the cutsheet IBM boned me



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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by dman4486 View Post
    I used sketch-up to model my first design....then used that to make a cut sheet
    exactly. nothing wrong with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PV Audio View Post
    Drawing lines and eyeballing dimensions != to making a design.

    To all alleged sketchup designers, if you can't design a box without just using a pencil and paper, sketchup isn't going to help you. Same goes for enclosure design programs: you must learn what the program is doing for it to benefit you the most.
    well, I've been using sketchup for about 4 years now. So i KNOW what it is and everything there is to know about it. I used it for 1 year straight doing projects in EAST (including measuring and doing a complete copy of our school in sketchup).

    Like I said. Sketchup just makes it easier to know exactly what dimension. I can do it on paper. BUT, I am a visual person. I like to be able to see stuff, not just have numbers on the page. I want to know what what I am making looks like. And no one can say I'm any less of a "designer" than themselves because I don't just use a piece of paper and a pencil, because that is bullshit.




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    Re: I don't know how many times we have to say this, but...

    I agree
    sketchup is NOT a design tool for woofer enclosures

    sketchup is a simple CAD program that can be used to display
    the looks,shape and dimensions of an object...
    ""the object must be designed by other meanes first""

    it has NO helpfull design features that can not be done by my 8
    year daughter with a crayon

    hell an Autistic person could probably use sketchup to show you
    how the universe comes to an end (when in reality all you get is a popcorn fart)



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