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    suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    im looking around for some car alarms and am really interested in viper alarms as i hear great things.

    problem is, i dont know where to start...

    i know i wanna be protected for glass breakage and have a protection around my car, i believe you call that a proximity sensor. but other then that, i dont know what else i want or should get.

    i do not want remote start as i already have it stock on my car, but i wanna make sure that installing this alarm (which i will either do by myself or have thunderbird do it or help me do it) i get to keep all my factory options. i do not wanna lose anything. it would be nice to have everything accesible from one remote but i dont wanna pay the extra money to get the remote start kit.

    can someone recommend me some good viper alarms for around 350$ or less as i do not know where to start as i am completely new to them.



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    The only issue with what you are requesting is using the factory remote start is likely not going to be possible as unless you a wire in the care other than IGN that changes state during the activation of the remote start the factory rs will set off the alarm. You need to find a wire that likely doesn't exist since I can all but guarantee that remote start activation is data based. Thus leaving you stuck with buying remote start too if you want to keep it.






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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    ok, so if buying the remote start with the alarm when installed will it automatically disable the factory remote start or will i have to disable it physically?



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    If the remote start is set up like I think it is it will be all data based so you could simply ignore it and not have to worry about it. However if it is a dealer installed option as I have seen come from ford and others it will installed just like an aftermarket remote start you could just rip it out






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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    alright, well any suggestions on good systems



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    anything you like from directed or compustar






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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    how good is the viper 5901



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    id wait on any of directed new 2way offerings as i and others that i know have been experiencing many issues with the two way remotes losing the 2way function






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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    yeah ur gonna lose you factory rs. plus if you still wanted it you will need 2 remotes factory to rs the car and the alarm to arm and disarm. and in order to use the factory you wouold have to disarm and rs. so get an all in 1 unit. your going to lose a ignition key also a 556u is what they list as the bypass.



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    what do you mean by losing an ignition key?

    and what is the bypass used for? and where could i find it?



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    you will not lose a key in that vehicle as it is a Passlock II vehicle. You can purchase a bypass if you want a 555L or an xk06 but you can also skip the bypass and use a resistor and a relay and bypass for a tad cheaper not to mention the relay method for me has been a bit more reliable over the years






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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    what does the bypass do?



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    There is a "chip" in the black part of your key. In the ignition switch there is a "chip reader". If the "chip" in the key matches the "chip" in the ECU your car will start. If it doesn't match your car wont start. The bypass module learns the resistance of your "chip" and when you remote start your car the bypass module make your car think the key is in the ignition.



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    so then how does the factory rs work? does that have a bypass?



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    Re: suggestions on car alarm w/o remote start

    because its factory, factory made, factory programmed. all we are doing is adding a unit that replicates they process of you starting your car with a key.



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