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    Cheap HP

    98 civic ex. looking to buy some horses for the motor. i want to start out small and work my way up to a turbo. what should i buy? i already have intake, headers, and exhaust.







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    Re: Cheap HP

    Header isn't too pricy.



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    Re: Cheap HP

    motor swap.... ha




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    Re: Cheap HP

    get one of thoes whistle tips that go in your exhaust pipe




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    Re: Cheap HP

    or some NOS




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    Re: Cheap HP

    well, before you start modding, you need to have the end goal in mind

    for example, EVERY upgrade part has a tradeoff... your factory parts are the best mix of both.... that's why they're there.

    you have to know if you're looking to gain high end hp at the expense of driveability and torque, or if you want torque, at the expense of high end hp....

    and secondly, you need hp goals..

    for instance, if you want to go 200+hp, you're not gonna get there naturally aspirated, which would rule out buying a header or an intake or software now, because you're gonna need to replace them anyways...

    in fact, if you were gonna do a turbo or a supercharger at some point, there's not a whole lot you can do that wont need to be replaced, and used car parts are worth right around 0% of what they are new.....

    Not trying to intimidate you, but if you don't have some goals in mind, you're gonna waste a lot of time, and money.

    And chances are, if you do nitrous on a stock engine, there wont be much left to turbocharge, if that's one of your goals.

    you could possibly choose what range of engine speed you're ultimately going to try and max out, and get yourself a cam, or a customized intake manifold (not an "intake" an actual manifold, short runner for high end, long tube runners for low end, etc.) those would be my two picks if you're serious about going turbo later on.

    Either that, or suspension, breaks, a differential.... All things you can do now, and wont need to be changed again once you go turbo, so long as you buy good enough parts to perform correctly with your ultimate hp goals.... Remember, 300hp's worthless if you can't turn, stop, or get the power to the ground (unless you're gonna drop big $ just to do donuts like some retards do) lightweight wheels and nice rubbers are an ok upgrade, but are likely gonna need replaced by the time you're ready to step up to the big leagues..




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    Re: Cheap HP

    if youre going to do turbo then start doing motor work like resleeve it, new pistons, new cams, headwork, etc. no reason to spend money only to throw it out when you turbo the car. though things like new pistons and resleeving wont get you a whole bunch of power now, you will be able to more than double the pressure and get a much better outcome when you do turbo.




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    Re: Cheap HP

    forgot to mention i have neuspeed suspension. its stiff as hell. i dont need any more than 250 hp.




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    Re: Cheap HP

    well then, find out what the turbo kit comes with, and how mch $$ it is....

    turbo's are kind of an alternative to 'conventional' mods....

    it's a whole 'b-list' of mods, none of which really give you any gains without the turbo

    mostly just to keep your engine, breaks, and transmission from biting it under boost

    you could find out what diameter downpipe the turbo comes with, and get a new exhaust from the downpipe back, with a test pipe, of course




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    Re: Cheap HP

    ill be putting together a kit, not buying a kit already made




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    Re: Cheap HP

    it's all you, then

    you'll wanna do engine internals last, tho, otherwise you're gonna have to open it back up to change your headgasket. n/a cars run like *** with low compression




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    Re: Cheap HP

    if youre only looking to have 250hp then dont bother with a turbo. just do basic things like exhaust, header, cai, cams and then get it tuned or buy a unit like hondata makes and do the tuning yourself. or just do a swap and you will have 220hp instantly for way less then 2grand.




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    Re: Cheap HP

    i thought you were swapping?




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    Re: Cheap HP

    Quote Originally Posted by SAG3
    i thought you were swapping?
    wouldnt a turbo be cheaper. ill be buying all used parts most likely.




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    homemadeturbo.com




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