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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

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    If it saves only 1 single person from getting wrongly separated from their hard-earned cash it did its job IMO

    Absolutely. Its actually quite useful for those that actually check it rather than just seeing the number.




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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    I haven't been nearly so active on the forum here of late as I would prefer to be, sadly, but currently it simply cannot be avoided.

    That being said in those occasional instances that I have been able to be here recently I keep finding threads, some old and some new, regarding trades that went without both parties involved being satisfied with the outcome of said trades.

    The holiday season, unfortunately, as well as emphasizing the absolute best facets of human nature in some situations also brings out the complete worst in those dregs of humanity that see fit to prey on people's good nature.
    With Christmas '06 (or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or whatever holiday you and yours may celebrate) rapidly approaching the perceived opportunities to get that "Ooo, whatta deal!" will increase dramtically and most will pan out to be nothing more than scams. Online trading, as a whole, having gained much more momentum than was ever anticipated originally when the concept was first introduced, brings along with it the massively increased chance for dishonest folk to ply their trade with increased anonymity.

    Like I said in the opening post to this thread:
    Dont be a victim!

    Please, before making any trade online go over the tips available both here and elsewhere if you're not particularly experienced with making a purchase in such a venue.
    That is all.



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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    I am currently doing a trade right now with Jcee. I think he's a good guy from talking on the phone with him, and see the pics with his s/n in them. I think this will pull through great. I am shipping my 2 Kicker CVR12s and the Memphis Amp out this morning and then he'll send me the kicker L7 and kicker amp. Hopefully it goes through. Thanks for the warning and advice on here.

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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    i am also setting up a trade with jcee. He's shipping first once i recieve the amps i'll ship him my hifonics. He does seem to be a legit honest seller/buyer



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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    yes, this is true, i am doing trades with both of these guys. i feel confidient that i can trust these guys and things will go smoothly, so everyones happy.



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    Traders for life!-peace




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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    Quote Originally Posted by Prowler573 View Post
    If you need a decent deal on an entry-level USAmps then flakko's your man. Looking for a Rainbow component set? Have a quick chat with 6spdcoupe. My point is that there are regular participants on the forum that you could safely place blind faith in and not get screwed over.
    first off, nice post.

    second, while i agree with the above comment, take for instance HCCAfan....he had a lot of good transactions, then started dicking people over




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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    Quote Originally Posted by pimpedout97x View Post
    first off, nice post.

    second, while i agree with the above comment, take for instance HCCAfan....he had a lot of good transactions, then started dicking people over
    That's a good point as well. Shane had a more-than-solid selling reputation here as well as in other venues for a great long while and then out of nowhere it all went to hell in a handbasket.


    The real bottom line to this is that when you're dealing with someone you've never met face-to-face and likely never will there are inherent risks involved that are purely unavoidable. Anyone can screw someone else and anyone can get screwed. There's no 100% guarantee against it. You cannot completely eliminate it but there are steps you can take to safeguard against it as best you can.



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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    There’s something that I’ve only just realized hasn’t even really been talked about here but most assuredly plays a part of this discussion. That would be acceptable behavior when you’re on the selling side of a transaction!!!

    So – to that end here are a few ideas to please keep in mind when someone else decides to trust you with their hard-earned money for something you’re offering for sale. If there is anything pertinent that someone feels I have missed here please feel free to add it to the thread at your leisure.

    (A) Be available and willing to answer any questions a prospective buyer may have. If there is something someone is unclear about your odds of making that sale to them increase exponentially if you’re willing to take the time to explain anything that could be confusing or unclear to them. Now I’m not talking about plainly ignorant questions such as “What VC configuration are those subs?” when you’ve plainly stated in your ad that they are *insert appropriate information here*

    (B) Take plenty of clear pictures. You may know just what kind of shape an item is in because you own it. However, those people who are potential buyers viewing your FS thread may not be so closely associated with the item or items you’re trying to move. Help them out and don’t simply tell them what sort of shape the gear is in – show them! Additionally PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make certain that any flaws in the item are fully described in accurate detail. Not everyone takes issue with buying somewhat flawed gear so long as it will still perform the function for which they would buy it. But ANY buyer is going to want to know just what it is they’re buying it before spending their money. If it is in BNIB condition then good! If it has (X,Y, or Z) wrong with it, though, make certain that you include that in your item description and if possible take pics of that as well.

    (C) Be clear and fully state your selling policies along with the gear you’re trying to move. Let possible buyers know what payment methods you accept. If you are going to add any fees for certain types of transactions then make certain that such information is available up front. If shipping times for certain payment methods differs than the shipping times for other payment methods make those differences clear to anyone who might read your thread.
    Ergo – if you’re going to charge buyers the PayPal transaction fee for accepting PayPal payments then let them know before they transmit any funds to you. If you’ll accept personal checks but will withhold shipping the bought gear until the check clears state that in your FS ad. (these examples are not to be considered all-inclusive of the possibilities of applicable situations but rather common sense examples of what I am talking about)

    (D) Fully disclose what shipping method you intend to use as well as the specifics regarding that shipping method. What courier will you use? Will you purchase shipping insurance on your dime or at least make it available to the buyer at an added expense?

    (E) State how long after receiving payment that you will ship and then (this is key) SHIP WITHIN THE WINDOW YOU HAVE ALLOWED YOURSELF. Once your buyer has transmitted payment in full via whatever method you accept then the vast majority of their responsibility for that transaction has been fulfilled. Now YOU have to get your lazy backside to the Post Office, the FedEx depot, the UPS store, wherever is applicable and get their gear sent out! Don’t wait two or three weeks when you happen to be going that direction and it’s convenient. Get it in the pipeline and pronto!

    (F) Package whatever gear you’re sending out safely and securely. We all know that there are two types of package handlers at the various commercial couriers. There are those that take pride in their job and handle the packages they see day to day with kid gloves as if those packages contain their own grandmother’s most valued and fragile treasures. On the flipside of that coin, however, are the ones that simply show up to collect a check and show little thought or consideration to the stuff they have their hands on. (we’ve all heard the horror stories and seen pictorial evidence of the same) It is YOUR responsibility as the seller to ensure that should the worst case scenario end up being what happens to your package while in transit that there isn’t any steps you could have taken beforehand to make sure that the shipped item(s) arrive safely at their destination.

    (G) After the gear has been sent out get whatever information is applicable into the hands of your buyer quickly. Sometimes a buyer will be somewhat (and understandably) nervous about having just sent over any amount of money to someone they have never and likely will never meet for some gear they have never seen/experienced in person. Please be aware that it goes a looong way to settle them when they receive an email containing shipping specifics for the gear they just bought. Do you have a tracking or Delivery/Signature Confirmation number? Do you have shipping insurance claims information? Do you have an estimated arrival date? Well, since all of that info is applicable to equipment that you no longer own please forward it to the person it now belongs to! Don’t wait a week or three – within a day or two of getting that information yourself you should have been able to find (or make) the time to take a moment and send that information along to the concerned party.


    Most of these items are purely common sense suggestions that shouldn’t have to be publicly posted on an online discussion board but sadly it appears more often than not that common sense isn’t at all common. I am well aware that I have very strict standards set for myself as far as selling practices go and that adherence to said standards isn’t something I could (or would) reasonably expect anyone else to follow. But, at the risk of sounding incredibly arrogant (which isn’t at all my intent) I do truly think that acting in accordance to those examples set by the more trusted sellers on this forum as well as other popular sites of this variety isn’t anything that should be discounted out of hand. Personally my buyers get their gear shipped NO LATER than one business day after my receipt of payment in full excepting the possible exceptions which I make very clear in my FS ads (such as acceptance of a personal check, etc). On some occasions I have managed to ship out the purchased item(s) the same day I get paid. Additionally regardless of which situation it falls under (the day of payment or the first business day after) on the same day the gear gets shipped the buyer will have all of the information I can provide them such as Delivery Confirmation numbers, insurance coverage amounts and claims information, proof that the gear was sent to the address the buyer provided me ,etc. Consequently I haven’t received any blemishes on my selling record whether it be here on CA.com, eBay, or elsewhere as I haven’t exhibited any behavior to warrant it. C’mon, guys and gals, someone was good enough to buy the gear that you’re selling for whatever reason(s) you’re selling so take that extra moment and make sure you return that kindness by making it clear (via the above methods) that you value their business!


    More to be added as it occurs to me…



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    Re: Ethical traders Vs Scamming pondscum traders

    Post #40 was my first post on this forum in 2006. NOICE



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