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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

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    No, I'll have all six of the RCA outputs from my Alpine CDE-153BT HU going straight into the six RCA inputs of my Alpine PXA0H800 DSP. None of the outputs from my HU will be going to the speakers as they are right now.



    Yes but again I ask YOU, why does my Alpine CDE-153BT HU have SIX RCA outputs and my Alpine PXA-H800 DSP has SIX RCA inputs? Aha! ;-)

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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

    Quote Originally Posted by LosIsATool View Post
    Every DSP has 6 inputs. Not every HU has 6 preamp outputs. Again. Read the manual.
    What of so much importance will I find in the manual?

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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKuthe View Post
    No, I'll have all six of the RCA outputs from my Alpine CDE-153BT HU going straight into the six RCA inputs of my Alpine PXA0H800 DSP. None of the outputs from my HU will be going to the speakers as they are right now.



    Yes but again I ask YOU, why does my Alpine CDE-153BT HU have SIX RCA outputs and my Alpine PXA-H800 DSP has SIX RCA inputs? Aha! ;-)

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    The reason why your HU has 6 outputs is because most people aren't going to run a DSP. The 6 outputs are so one can get a signal from the HU to an amp for subs, and front and rear channels to a 4 channel amp.

    When a DSP is involved, this becomes redundant, as the DSP can process those separately. FFS, this would be obvious if you had one quarter of the education that you claim.




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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

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    The reason why your HU has 6 outputs is because most people aren't going to run a DSP. The 6 outputs are so one can get a signal from the HU to an amp for subs, and front and rear channels to a 4 channel amp.
    Makes sense. Yep, and I have 4x1 Alpine amps, so they are a perfect if redundant match!

    When a DSP is involved, this becomes redundant, as the DSP can process those separately. FFS, this would be obvious if you had one quarter of the education that you claim.
    I assume you mean't "can't" rather than "can". YUGE difference! ;-)

    And then I ask YOU as I have asked several here, then WHY does my Alpine PXA-H800 DSP have SIX RCA inputs?

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    No. The DSP most definitely CAN process the full range signal into separate sub, front and rear. When you can comprehend that, maybe we'll explain why a DSP has multiple inputs.

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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

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    Makes sense. Yep, and I have 4x1 Alpine amps, so they are a perfect if redundant match!



    I assume you mean't "can't" rather than "can". YUGE difference! ;-)

    And then I ask YOU as I have asked several here, then WHY does my Alpine PXA-H800 DSP have SIX RCA inputs?

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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

    cause it does dolby 5.1 and dts, so it can take analog signal for all those channels, fr c fl rr rl sub. It really depends on how you want to control the fading and balance, in the owners manual it does show connecting all rca's from the hu to the processor like I thought. but it also shows various other ways to use the inputs if your running video players and other crap.




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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKuthe View Post
    No, I'll have all six of the RCA outputs from my Alpine CDE-153BT HU going straight into the six RCA inputs of my Alpine PXA0H800 DSP. None of the outputs from my HU will be going to the speakers as they are right now.



    Yes but again I ask YOU, why does my Alpine CDE-153BT HU have SIX RCA outputs and my Alpine PXA-H800 DSP has SIX RCA inputs? Aha! ;-)

    John Kuthe...
    I answered this in an earlier post...the 6 outputs DO NOT 'match' the 6 physical inputs in the PXA...the sub output of your Alpine HU is mono...it happens to ride a pair of RCA's...if you run the PXA in 5.1 input mode (which you need to do if you want all RCA's as you propose) one of the inputs is designed for center info. You may be able to assign that input to go to 'sub2' then run both outputs to the same amp inputs, but it doesn't really gain you anything. Anyways...your 6 put on your Alpine HU are NOT the same as the 6 inputs on the PXA. Previous note:

    **I will add a quick note that the PXA may have (6) physical RCA inputs and your standard HU may have (6) physical outputs, these do not actually correspond intentionally as 'channels'...by this I mean when in 5.1 input config the PXA accepts inputs for front left(1), front right(2), rear left(3), rear right(4), center(5), sub(6). The output RCA's allow for (8) channels; FL high, FL low, FR high, FR low, RL, RR, Center, Sub. **



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    The main advantage of running multiple input RCAs into the PXA is if you're not using the RUX...with the RUX you can control fader, balance, and sub control...if not using the RUX you can configure multiple input mode (5.1) and have all that control from your HU and still have all the processing power of the PXA.



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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

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    And then I ask YOU as I have asked several here, then WHY does my Alpine PXA-H800 DSP have SIX RCA inputs?

    John Kuthe...
    I want to say this has been answered already, but one reason your DSP (as well as most DSPs) has 6 inputs is occasionally a signal is split up into highs, mids, and low and it requires more than 2 channels to construct a full signal. This is generally an issue for stock systems in which a crossover slope is applied near/at the front end. One could also argue so you retain fader and balance controls, but really if you're in the DSP crowd you likely won't ever touch those since it will throw off your tune.

    ...As an aside someone may run into the extremely esoteric scenario where 1 DSP isn't cutting it and he or she thinks they need 2 DSPs where the multiple inputs can come in handy...SQ people can be crazy sometimes.

    In short a DSP generally has 6 channels to remain flexible. One would think someone with your illustrious background wouldn't need so much holding of the hand. ;-)



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    The H800 like the MS-8 will process surround sound with a single full range signal. With 5.1 there is no fader. The rears are covering the out of phase L/R information. And the Mono information goes to the center channel. I would advice from my experience, if you are not running a center stick to no rears.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LosIsATool View Post
    You will find out once you get into the software. And the **** manual will tell you
    And you WON'T tell me, which is why you're a... ;-)

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    Being told many times and your lack of comprehension is the same thing.



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    I want to say this has been answered already, but one reason your DSP (as well as most DSPs) has 6 inputs is occasionally a signal is split up into highs, mids, and low and it requires more than 2 channels to construct a full signal. This is generally an issue for stock systems in which a crossover slope is applied near/at the front end. One could also argue so you retain fader and balance controls, but really if you're in the DSP crowd you likely won't ever touch those since it will throw off your tune.

    ...As an aside someone may run into the extremely esoteric scenario where 1 DSP isn't cutting it and he or she thinks they need 2 DSPs where the multiple inputs can come in handy...SQ people can be crazy sometimes.

    In short a DSP generally has 6 channels to remain flexible. One would think someone with your illustrious background wouldn't need so much holding of the hand. ;-)
    no he needs his d*ck held. Probably cant pee in the restroom without making a mess.

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    Re: My install's coming along nicely

    In short, little noob comes in here, doesnt know sh*t, puts off more than he knows because of his small ego driven pen*s, doesnt know how to take advice for sh*t and still fks up with his setup because he has absolutely no fking clue about anything car audio related, hires a backyard craigslist wack job to do his sh*t, doesn't get any results finished with the amount of time spent, keeps coming back for advice but sh*ts where he eats. Also claims to be everything in the world but admits to be a mental health disaster patient. Why is the world wasting its oxygen on such a useless turd of sh*t


    I advice souldrop and losisatool to just stop responding to this fkface entirely and so will I.



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