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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    It still amazes me that "most" the people with all the experience can't give constructive criticism. Rather than give advice such as @UsAmpsFreak did. Once you give you "constructive criticism" what the OP want to do from there is on him. Don't take it the wrong way just cause they didn't do it exactly like you did. If they have the money, time, etc to do it the way they want to, just sit back and see what the outcome is. If they fail then the "I told you so's" are in order. Otherwise there's no reason to come off as a Dick and keep pushing the issue just cause it's not how YOU would do it. Let them fail & learn. Tons of experience mean nothing when you look & sound like a total Ass.




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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by oxsign View Post
    It still amazes me that "most" the people with all the experience can't give constructive criticism. Rather than give advice such as @UsAmpsFreak did. Once you give you "constructive criticism" what the OP want to do from there is on him. Don't take it the wrong way just cause they didn't do it exactly like you did. If they have the money, time, etc to do it the way they want to, just sit back and see what the outcome is. If they fail then the "I told you so's" are in order. Otherwise there's no reason to come off as a Dick and keep pushing the issue just cause it's not how YOU would do it. Let them fail & learn. Tons of experience mean nothing when you look & sound like a total Ass.

    x2 and most of your experience was learned through failing and doing dumb sh+t. Everyone messes up and then you learn from mistakes. I have blown thousands on stupid ideas that didn't work out. That is the fun of this hobby is trying new things. Not just the true tried stuff that's guaranteed to work. Give your experience let someone take in what they want and that's it. See how it works and let them in the end decide what worked and what didn't in the build. That is how we learn through builds and by listening to the failures and successes that others have tried. So open your mind people no one knows all.




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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by mclerico83 View Post
    x2 and most of your experience was learned through failing and doing dumb sh+t. Everyone messes up and then you learn from mistakes. I have blown thousands on stupid ideas that didn't work out. That is the fun of this hobby is trying new things. Not just the true tried stuff that's guaranteed to work. Give your experience let someone take in what they want and that's it. See how it works and let them in the end decide what worked and what didn't in the build. That is how we learn through builds and by listening to the failures and successes that others have tried. So open your mind people no one knows all.
    Yep same here man, hell, thinking back to my first system (if it was even capable of being called one) i just shake my head now thinking about what a piece of crap that was lol. As i was installing at a shop a few years later i remember seeing the most ghetto installs coming through and thinking to myself while everyone else was laughing and making fun of them "boy, if they had only seen my pile of dog turd install" lol




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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by Full Tilt View Post
    Okay, so we're on Zv4 15s now?
    Man Jacob just told me the **** 18s are finished :/ lol first it takes for ever for them to get built and then when I make the right decision on switching them it all falls apart..I guess now will have the "wow" factor that there will be 4 18s in a civic..I am going to try and get a hold of him today and stress how much im going to need the 15s now



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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Guys I think ur stilllll missing out that I am not making this box..I have some with a huge reputation build my boxs that I do NOT Wanna mess up simply because I believe in doing things right the first time. How ever let's not take this path because I see the build log going the wrong way once again. If it does make thosw certain guys happy looking forward to saying "I told u so" then so be it and lets leave it at that.



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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeguerra909 View Post
    Guys I think ur stilllll missing out that I am not making this box..I have some with a huge reputation build my boxs that I do NOT Wanna mess up simply because I believe in doing things right the first time. How ever let's not take this path because I see the build log going the wrong way once again. If it does make thosw certain guys happy looking forward to saying "I told u so" then so be it and lets leave it at that.
    Well i won't be telling anyone "i told you so", even if the 18's are only in 4 cubes per they're going to be loud. What's the internal volume of the box? I was just suggesting to go with 15's if you could cause it would probably sound better but either way it's going to be loud as hell




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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

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    Well i won't be telling anyone "i told you so", even if the 18's are only in 4 cubes per they're going to be loud. What's the internal volume of the box? I was just suggesting to go with 15's if you could cause it would probably sound better but either way it's going to be loud as hell
    Yes reason I want 15s is for the simple fact it will play lower and be louder in a bigger box..theres no doubt about it even with 18s it will be loud as well. My buddy said hes guessing its gonna be around 20 cubes.



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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    I love dumb stuff..... why every car I paint is metal flaked. I like it! Back up camera ftw! Have fun with it, why not? Lifes short. Get a trailer with 10 18's firing into the hatch if you want. I'm not going to sit here and say its a bad idea. Hell, I have all sorts of bad ideas




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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeguerra909 View Post
    Yes reason I want 15s is for the simple fact it will play lower and be louder in a bigger box..theres no doubt about it even with 18s it will be loud as well. My buddy said hes guessing its gonna be around 20 cubes.
    That's cool man, as long as it's over 4 cuft per 18 it's gonna be loud. The 15's like you said would drop quite a bit lower but both will be loud as hell. You don't need me to say i told you so when it's done, i see you'll have plenty of other guys that will be all over that lol.




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    That's cool man, as long as it's over 4 cuft per 18 it's gonna be loud. The 15's like you said would drop quite a bit lower but both will be loud as hell. You don't need me to say i told you so when it's done, i see you'll have plenty of other guys that will be all over that lol.
    Haha yea thanks man..agh idk im over stressing about it I guess what ever size woofers show up at my door step ill just run ive been waiting since the first of this month for my 18s to be built so if I got 15s ill have the wait again..cars been in the shop for 2 weeks now we just need to continue the face.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeguerra909 View Post
    Haha yea thanks man..agh idk im over stressing about it I guess what ever size woofers show up at my door step ill just run ive been waiting since the first of this month for my 18s to be built so if I got 15s ill have the wait again..cars been in the shop for 2 weeks now we just need to continue the face.
    Yep i wouldn't worry about it, everyone has an opinion on here it seems that if you don't do what they would do than you're just an idiot. I've been installing long enough to know how car audio works, it's not rocket science.




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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Small update I got a hold of brian at sundown and he said he will speak to Jacob I guess they are at lunch so the 15s may be looking good now.



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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeguerra909 View Post
    Guys I think ur stilllll missing out that I am not making this box..I have some with a huge reputation build my boxs that I do NOT Wanna mess up simply because I believe in doing things right the first time. How ever let's not take this path because I see the build log going the wrong way once again. If it does make thosw certain guys happy looking forward to saying "I told u so" then so be it and lets leave it at that.

    X2 I agree with Jeaguerra box builder knows what his doing. Have seen his work in the pass, I would fully trust him and his advice.



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    X2 I agree with Jeaguerra box builder knows what his doing. Have seen his work in the pass, I would fully trust him and his advice.
    Exactly the reason why im not worried



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    Re: jaeguerra909's 1997 civic 4 zv4 18s walled

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeguerra909 View Post
    Haha yea thanks man..agh idk im over stressing about it I guess what ever size woofers show up at my door step ill just run ive been waiting since the first of this month for my 18s to be built so if I got 15s ill have the wait again..cars been in the shop for 2 weeks now we just need to continue the face.
    Waiting 15 days for Jacob to build your Subs is forever? Good thing you don't like FI or customs



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