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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    Yeah, definite plus. There were even some factory CLD tiles in place on the outer door skin. My concern with routing new speaker wire isn't about drilling and rubber grommets, it's about the fact that just inside the cabin that I'd be drilling into, there's a pair of airbags. Last thing I need to do is have to pay to replace one of those...
    Or have one go off in your face. Running wires to the trunk is a PITA, but honestly I like to show off every piece of equipment I have.



    Quote Originally Posted by ducatipaso View Post
    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
    Quote Originally Posted by benbenondatrack View Post
    stfu lesbo.why are you worried about me so much? you must want to date me ya little cookie monster but i dont even like sweets. your just a cup full of ice, dirt dead nasty azz ice...without the water.

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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

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    Or have one go off in your face. Running wires to the trunk is a PITA, but honestly I like to show off every piece of equipment I have.
    Word. That's why my next project will be a true SQ in an older Civic or something that I can get into and around easily enough. I've already started pulling off item after item in my wish list if such a day ever comes around.



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    Word. That's why my next project will be a true SQ in an older Civic or something that I can get into and around easily enough. I've already started pulling off item after item in my wish list if such a day ever comes around.
    I wish I had that kind of cash :/



    Quote Originally Posted by ducatipaso View Post
    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
    Quote Originally Posted by benbenondatrack View Post
    stfu lesbo.why are you worried about me so much? you must want to date me ya little cookie monster but i dont even like sweets. your just a cup full of ice, dirt dead nasty azz ice...without the water.

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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

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    I wish I had that kind of cash :/
    That's what my SRBs normally go to. I'm due for a Zone C in the next couple years. If I can do it in a tax-free zone, that'll be 45k of spending money on the spot. Otherwise, I get my current installment of 4500-ish in October.



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    I just see diminishing returns on the DIY end for this car. VW did too many weird things to merit me trying harder. I might just put in a Leviathan, maybe some more deadener, and probably finish off with tweeter pods and call it done for this car, but I doubt going active in here is in the forseeable future. Hence why I need a beater to freshen up. And Civics around here go for about the 6k mark in perfect mechanical condition, so I see that as a good starting point.



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    That's what my SRBs normally go to. I'm due for a Zone C in the next couple years. If I can do it in a tax-free zone, that'll be 45k of spending money on the spot. Otherwise, I get my current installment of 4500-ish in October.
    Oh man, you get SRB?? I'm jelly of that too! Haven't had one in years. Before my time.



    Quote Originally Posted by ducatipaso View Post
    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
    Quote Originally Posted by benbenondatrack View Post
    stfu lesbo.why are you worried about me so much? you must want to date me ya little cookie monster but i dont even like sweets. your just a cup full of ice, dirt dead nasty azz ice...without the water.

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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

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    Oh man, you get SRB?? I'm jelly of that too! Haven't had one in years. Before my time.
    They gotta do something to keep us from remembering we glow in the dark...



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Just let a friend audition the system. He was all smiles. Kept remarking on how "clean" it was. I cranked the volume, too...enough to give me a little trunk flex on Sander Van Doorn's "Kangaroo"



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Ok time for another update, this time sitting in the car and tweaking the eq as I type. Trying to find the new balance between clarity, punch, and proper staging. I found out the response of these speakers isn't really as flat as I thought; that or the HU doesn't do the best job of keeping a flat signal. Had to make 6dB cuts at 200,1000, and 8000Hz as well as a 2dB cut on the 80Hz just to keep the mids from pushing too hard.

    Then I did something interesting. I leaned forward and placed my head right at the shift lever, putting myself directly on axis with the comps. And almost came. I mean literally. Now I know what these comps need. Everyone saying the tweeters needed to be off axis were missing out. Now I just wish I could fit a pod on each a-pillar to house the whole set. It's revelatory, really. I would think I'd be getting a headphone effect but no. I got the whole stage presented in front of me. For this car, I may just settle on tweeter pods. But, seriously, these comps don't deserve to be behind a door.



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    I've got a video uploading right now that I took with one of my iDevices to give you a short feel how the system sounds ATM. I'll try to snag my wife's Canon and film a better video after the Eclipse amp goes in, but this'll give you a good impression of the system. Also, I ran the first half with Pioneer's AutoEQ enabled and EQ setting at Flat and the second half with my EQ adjustments using the SPL meter on the JL iPhone app and test tones from some random website. All test tones were recorded at -5dB. Anywho, hope you'll enjoy it.



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    I'm taking off for a bit, but when it's ready you should be able to view it. Enjoy and feel free to express your opinions as long as they're not iDevices suxxors!!!1!one!
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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Bump. Watch the video. I would like opinions.

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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_styles View Post
    Bump. Watch the video. I would like opinions.

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    Only way your going to do better is with 3 way fronts




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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Additional note, I changed over how I'm setting the EQ. I have the AutoCal on my AVH-P8400 for general peace of mind, but am using a combo of my ears and the JL Audio app on my iPhone with the RTA set to Octave display rather than 1/3 octave.

    Also, I went back in to the driver door and applied more deadener to the baffle itself after I realized that I could feel a ton of vibration just putting my fingertips on the bare wood portion of the baffle. I haven't gotten to the passenger door for additional coverage, so it's pretty easy to discern a difference. Overall, there's a ton of additional impact and separation in midrange music. I'm almost to the point where I'm getting a real snap from the kick drum, but know I'm really not going to get there without a beefier amp (Zed Leviathan will be installed hopefully by next year). I am going to have to re-do the passenger door after noticing this.



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    Re: JBL MS62c / 06 Passat Speaker Baffles

    Quote Originally Posted by West View Post
    I like it!
    Only way your going to do better is with 3 way fronts
    Thanks, bud. I really am surprised how up front that tweeter is being behind the door card. Can't wait to get it up on or above the dash.

    And 3-way won't be in this car. The doors are horrible for modification and I can't fit what I want to on the a-pillar and stay within California code.



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