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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    got a new amp, and will likely get another one from the same V12 Expert series. I would like to build a set including a 1005 and 1505.

    the xtant amps have been fun but time for something different, and older.

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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    sorry if youve already mentioned this, but what type of rta setup are you using



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    Quote Originally Posted by perfecxionX View Post
    sorry if youve already mentioned this, but what type of rta setup are you using
    i have several at my disposal.

    Mostly, I use a kit that includes a laptop running TrueRTA with a SoundDevices USBpre interface and either a Behringer ECM8000 mic or an Earthworks M50 mic. There are pics of this setup in the thread.

    I'll also use a Casella CEL633C that is a 1/3 octave Type-1 SLM (a $7k meter). These results look a bit different than the TrueRTA results and are show a white background and blue bars.

    I generally prefer the laptop kit for the higher resolution and visible phase interference. It also allows me to save 20 results and compare easily.
    For the Casella it is portable and less of a physical hassle, and results are very easy to see, plus it's highly accurate.



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    Anyone around Tulsa have a setup like this?



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    Quote Originally Posted by chefzane View Post
    Anyone around Tulsa have a setup like this?
    i know someone you can hit up to hear what a good competition level system sounds like.

    he goes by Thumper26 on DIYMA.



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    I'll check him out thanks

    Kinda meant the equip setup, but can you point me to a decent beginner RTA setup I could use myself

    BTW ur examples on door deadening are what I am using to do mine top notch love the work



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

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    I'll check him out thanks

    Kinda meant the equip setup, but can you point me to a decent beginner RTA setup I could use myself

    BTW ur examples on door deadening are what I am using to do mine top notch love the work
    Yea, he has an active 2-way with door treatments and was running IB. He competes and does well.

    Gotcha about the RTA setup. If you already have the laptop, it's just the software, a mic, and a mic Pre.



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    I have 2 vega 124s.
    If you wanna sell it let me know



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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman_soundki View Post
    I have 2 vega 124s.
    If you wanna sell it let me know
    Sell what?



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    **** i wish i had the time to work on stuff like that and money, u must be pretty rich. btw how old r u?



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    Quote Originally Posted by bradl79 View Post
    **** i wish i had the time to work on stuff like that and money, u must be pretty rich. btw how old r u?
    34 and no, not rich. i buy and sell used, nothing is new. i lose sleep to make time, i work 50-60 hrs per week and spend time with my family when they are awake.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLDriverv2 View Post
    wow.. just browsed this log, and your log on sounddomain. you feel confident giving advice.. with this install?


    all I see is a bunch of "thisll do, for now". ever consider saving yourself time and hassle and just doing it right the first time?

    seems pretty halfass.
    the important stuff is solid.

    wiring is solid and well done - a shy under IASCA and MECA install guidelines. I don't compromise safety. all of the vehicles i wire are done in a similar fashion - loom on wire, wires secured often, fuses appropriately, routed appropriately, etc.

    speaker locations are many because of testing. i test and test and test and my advice is based on almost 20 years of building and testing. testing is important and is what allows me to give advice. doing one system and living with that one for years doesn't give you much background for answering questions on various placements. if i did it once and left it, i wouldn't give advice. i have 10 speaker locations in just the front of my car and i've used every combination of them.

    sub IB wall is permanant and done as well as any i have seen, and i haven't seen any removable with the system i have. most are permanent for one setup. entire rear deck is sealed and the vehicle performs very well with bass - my bass is in my soundstage.

    all amps and speakers are mounted with T-nuts. nothing half-assed about that. both the mounting boards and beauty panels are finished to match the car, all wiring routed and protected as well as most installs. i don't use aircraft grade wire mounts, but my wires are safe and don't move.

    doors are fully sealed and i've innovated new methods of absorption - again, based on testing. the only unfinished part is the grill - and that is something on my to-do list... and has been for about 3 years.

    head unit/dash area is always in limbo. another long to-do item is in regards to the panel around the radio. i have gauges to incorporate and want to make a new face. it'll be 12 hours or so of effort, start to finish, to get exactly what i want. but i keep finding other things to change and test - so while it bothers me a bit, not enough for me to move up the list.

    the only compromise is cosmetics. i compromise cosmetics because they don't affect the sound of the system - which is the most important part. and i change and experiment so much, putting in the effort for a final cosmetic product would be silly. i use wood and carpet to make beauty panels instead of painted fiberglass or vinyl - i can live with that. my technical skills start to fail me when it comes to cosmetic fabrication - which is why you don't see me telling people how to wrap vinyl or bondo a panel. i understand how to do it, just don't feel the need to put in that effort at this time.

    "half-assed" is visible wires, stuff not mounted securely, things placed without adequate seals. you don't see that at any point in my build log.

    most of what i do in car audio, you don't see. the wiring/installs i do for others are finished products that i walk away from in cars, trucks, boats, motorhomes, classic cars, even houses. i don't post other people's stuff on the internet unless they allow (few do). those are finished technically and cosmetically. all of my work has free lifetime service/warranty. yet none of my work has failed the user and no one has had to get anything i do fixed. i do fix a lot of installs by others.


    everything is done in late hours (11pm-3am) or an occasional weekend day. i'm too busy working on other vehicles to finish my own, it seems. i always put my friend's needs in front of my own. limited and sporadic time frames limits what i can commit to.

    - next steps are to remove the carpeting and re-run speaker wires. i started this but had to fly to FL for work last week. more travel this week, not sure when i'll get it out.
    - then i'll rebuild the kicks to get the angles i want. after years of testing what i have (also rare to see flush-mounted mids and midbass in kicks), I realize what angle i want to have. like always, the mounts need to be able to accept a wide range of speakers because i'll never stop testing speaker types. i cannot decide if i want to just make a sealed surface mounted enclosure and lose foot well space and stage width or if i can keep it recessed and re-use the floor vent.
    - i also want a decent dash 2" mid pod and want to keep experimenting with that option. I plan on being able to run either the 2" dash or the floor mid (4" - 6.5") but not both at the same time unless i can get good midbass from the floor (not been happy with that yet). i will wire both locations to the rear and will switch with a relay for testing purposes (testing stage width, center, and depth).
    - tweeters may go back to spheres or maybe integrated into the 2" pod. probably have the option for both. again, testing is what this is all about for me.
    - sub stays as-is, though the brand/mfr will eventually change
    - doors will remain as-is for a 6.5" midbass. the grill will be updated and finished for something that looks good. i actually am fine with the grills now, but no one else seems to.
    - entire trunk will be redone to incorporate the new (1996-era) amps. i haven't finalized the design yet and, like always, will need to spend some time with mock-ups to find what i like. all of my amp layouts have been the result of hours of planning that incorporates access, space utilization, and wire routing. while i've changed it several times, each iteration could have been a final product.

    i understand how someone seeing this much change and variation would be confused. i can give advice because of how much i have done and tried - not just in my car but the dozens of other cars i've built and hundreds of sound systems i've heard. i can give advice because as an electrical engineer and acoustics engineer who understands both theory and application, i can analyze and problem solve - and have identified the "problem" in hundreds of systems both in-person and over the forums. as someone who uses an RTA on a regular basis and has ran active and passive in a variety of ways with a variety of equipment, i can talk about processor settings and methods. that's my resume, anyway. not a brag session as there are plenty of installers better than I. i never claim to be the best or better than anyone, i just do what i think is right at that time.

    cheers.



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    **** rich. those are some true words. and to back it up he did the wiring in my truck for the most recent install. moved some stuff, added stuff etc. i have had zero problems with it and i never plan on having problems with it. he is **** good at what he does. if you have any pics of the truck you can post them to prove a point. im happier and feel more confident about his install than i do about my own which is saying something seeing as my install was the power and ground lines for the rest of the system. i will be going back to finish the rest of my install and do a few final things when the time comes. i would also recommend him to anyone i know for any kind of install whether it be a SQ or SPL install or a car harness wiring install. he doesnt take shortcuts on the important things like the wiring or mounting. and like he pointed out no point in making cosmetics perfect if it is constantly changing.
    i cant wait to hear the car after this install and i need to get down there still. i saw jared at cordova but wasnt able to get a demo.
    keep up the great work bro.




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    Thanks. we need to finish the spheres soon.

    i did pull the carpet out of the car last night (requires removing lower dash panels, center console, all seats, and all side panels). i have the driver's seat back in for now. road noise will be a bit louder than usual.

    I also pulled the German Maestro Status from the front doors and put the Silver Flute woofers back in. I'd like to try the GM in the kick. i need a dedicated midrange, the angle of the door woofer just causes roll-off too early. i'm curious how i'll like the GM woofer on-axis.



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    Quote Originally Posted by RLDriverv2 View Post
    wow.. just browsed this log, and your log on sounddomain. you feel confident giving advice.. with this install?


    all I see is a bunch of "thisll do, for now". ever consider saving yourself time and hassle and just doing it right the first time?

    seems pretty halfass.
    Who the fuck are you to come in here and criticize like this? What gives you the right to say if he is qualified to give out advice? Please enlighten us of all the members on here you have helped and tell us how you have contributed to this community on here. Better yet lets see YOUR build log and lets compare how much you know about this hobby.



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    Re: 2001 Accord EX Sedan - it's long

    Quote Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive View Post
    Thanks. we need to finish the spheres soon.

    i did pull the carpet out of the car last night (requires removing lower dash panels, center console, all seats, and all side panels). i have the driver's seat back in for now. road noise will be a bit louder than usual.

    I also pulled the German Maestro Status from the front doors and put the Silver Flute woofers back in. I'd like to try the GM in the kick. i need a dedicated midrange, the angle of the door woofer just causes roll-off too early. i'm curious how i'll like the GM woofer on-axis.
    awesome build btw, truly inspirational of all the hard work and knowledge you have put in this build, dont mind the noobs



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    It's a fucking shame that you got caught up trying to steal from somebody, you lowlife piece of ****. I hope you fall, asshole first, onto a 14" combat knife that's attached to a 18v Dewalt drill...
    Quote Originally Posted by retrojordans View Post
    The MTs are just like the 05' XXX

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